Notch is no longer lead developer on Minecraft • Hacker News Board

Re: Notch is no longer lead developer on Minecraft

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Post by freehunter » Fri, Dec 02, 2011, 9:02 PM UTC

jpeterson wrote: post #7

TylerE wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't let this bit of reddit-stupidity transfer here. "LOl upvotd" posts don't add anything and just clutter the discussion.

Too late. HN has basically become reddit.com/r/programming in the last year or so. The glory days are over. You have to admire how long the quality remained high, though.

Even though I had to highlight the text of your comment to read it, you do echo a point that has kind of irritated me somewhat. On a website called "hacker news", 90% (hyperbole) of the links are related to designing flashy GUIs and selling social web startups and whatever the flavor-of-the-week web design trend is. There's very little "do it yourself, do it quickly, do what no one has done before" spirit, it's mostly "do what everyone has done before, but flashier and in a newer language".

Not that it's a bad thing in any way, but the title of "hacker news" is a bit disingenuous when "developer news" might be a little more accurate. I wish I could filter out the programming and startup stuff.

Re: Notch is no longer lead developer on Minecraft

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Post by shmeeps » Fri, Dec 02, 2011, 9:07 PM UTC

TylerE wrote: post #4

shmeeps wrote: post #2

Gave this an upvote, since it's from the official Notch blog instead of what could have been possible conjecture from reddit.

Please don't let this bit of reddit-stupidity transfer here. "LOl upvotd" posts don't add anything and just clutter the discussion.

Though I don't disagree with you about adding to the discussion, I was applauding the author for actually verifying the accuracy of the story with an official source instead of just posting a link to a reddit thread that had nothing but a user-drawn image associated with it and assuming the "story" was true, which was what the previous story posting had done.

Re: Notch is no longer lead developer on Minecraft

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Post by bct » Fri, Dec 02, 2011, 9:17 PM UTC

windsurfer wrote: post #17

kiba wrote: post #13

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Don't really care, as there are too many video games in the world that I never played before. Polish existing ones, instead.

Too many food; make existing ones better Too many websites; make existing ones better Too many songs; make existing ones better

There's a place for both approaches. I agree with kiba that with video games (and websites, and lots of other software for that matter), novelty is weighted much too heavily.

Re: Notch is no longer lead developer on Minecraft

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Post by SquareWheel » Fri, Dec 02, 2011, 9:22 PM UTC

jpeterson wrote: post #7

TylerE wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't let this bit of reddit-stupidity transfer here. "LOl upvotd" posts don't add anything and just clutter the discussion.

Too late. HN has basically become reddit.com/r/programming in the last year or so. The glory days are over. You have to admire how long the quality remained high, though.

I came over from Reddit this last month, the number of memes just become too much for me.

Re: Notch is no longer lead developer on Minecraft

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Post by patrickod » Fri, Dec 02, 2011, 9:24 PM UTC

Given all that has happened in the last year I think Notch is very much deserving of a break. His work ethic is something to admire and his success well earned. I look forward to seeing what projects he creates with his time in the future.

Re: Notch is no longer lead developer on Minecraft

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Post by Toady » Fri, Dec 02, 2011, 9:48 PM UTC

patrickod wrote: post #25

Given all that has happened in the last year I think Notch is very much deserving of a break. His work ethic is something to admire and his success well earned. I look forward to seeing what projects he creates with his time in the future.

His work ethic is something to admire

That's a pretty amusing statement because Notch is infamous for taking vacations often and quickly losing interest in a feature before moving onto the next one, leaving things incomplete.

Fans have been cheering Jeb's takeover because he is considered more technically competent and devoted to fixing bugs. Minecraft's code is generally considered a big mess.

Re: Notch is no longer lead developer on Minecraft

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Post by Toady » Fri, Dec 02, 2011, 9:54 PM UTC

heyrhett wrote: post #15

Good for him. Notch has earned a well-deserved break. Some people are better at starting new things, and some people are better at maintaining and expanding on existing things. I'm happy to hear that Notch has some new ideas that he's itching to get started on.

Good for him. Notch has earned a well-deserved break.

If you've followed Minecraft development for any period of time, you'd know he takes breaks quite often, much to the amusing frustration of fans. His disinterest in the game in the last year has been a little obvious.

Jeb's takeover is the best Minecraft news in a long time. He has already fixed outstanding bugs, like sheep wool not regrowing. 1.0 is rife with major issues, and Notch's inability to finish a feature has damaged the game's appeal since its shift to an RPG-lite in the various Adventure Updates. Jeb is the best person to grab the steering wheel and put things back on course.

Re: Notch is no longer lead developer on Minecraft

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Post by TylerE » Fri, Dec 02, 2011, 10:32 PM UTC

SquareWheel wrote: post #24

jpeterson wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Too late. HN has basically become reddit.com/r/programming in the last year or so. The glory days are over. You have to admire how long the quality remained high, though.

I came over from Reddit this last month, the number of memes just become too much for me.

May I make the suggestion of installing Reddit Enhancement Suite. Unsubscribe from all the default sub/r's (wtf, offbeat,askreddit, etc), and block all posts from imgur and quickmeme, and things look a lot better.

Re: Notch is no longer lead developer on Minecraft

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Post by Klinky » Fri, Dec 02, 2011, 10:42 PM UTC

v21 wrote: post #10

I'm glad this is the case. A common trap for indie developers is to make one game, have it be at least partially successful, and then to continue to make that game - making DLC, expansions, porting it to other platforms, making a multiplayer version etc. It makes me sad as a player, because it's done instead of developing something new. It's far better to pass on these porting efforts to other developers and to get t…

It makes me sad as a player, because it's done instead of developing something new.

I think this is a problem of attitude. If you are so desperate for something new, why not create it yourself? The indie has every right to do what they feel like with their content, time, energy & money. They're not your monkey to dance & sing whenever you please. If you disagree with how they're spending their time, then spend your time making something you'd rather see.

Re: Notch is no longer lead developer on Minecraft

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Post by pessimizer » Fri, Dec 02, 2011, 10:49 PM UTC

freehunter wrote: post #21

jpeterson wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Too late. HN has basically become reddit.com/r/programming in the last year or so. The glory days are over. You have to admire how long the quality remained high, though.

Even though I had to highlight the text of your comment to read it, you do echo a point that has kind of irritated me somewhat. On a website called "hacker news", 90% (hyperbole) of the links are related to designing flashy GUIs and selling social web startups and whatever the flavor-of-the-week web design trend is. There's very little "do it yourself, do it quickly, do what no one has done before" spirit, it's mostl…

What's disingenuous about programming on a site called "Hacker News," and what would be left other than political posts if you took out the startup and programming stuff?