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Traffic cameras expose your location through parking apps

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Re: Traffic cameras expose your location through parking apps

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post #9

Just another reason to preference walking and cycling.

A bike is a great mode of transportation when you don't need to carry anything heavy, bulky, passengers etc. and when weather permits.

It's not a replacement for a vehicle, nor will it ever be.

Re: Traffic cameras expose your location through parking apps

#22

At this point I’m carrying so many electronic devices with me or at home that I’ve give up on going out of my way to prevent getting tracked. My best effort is to trust Apple doesn’t sell me out.

> At this point I’m carrying so many electronic devices with me or at home that I’ve give up on going out of my way to prevent getting tracked As much as I hate the guy, Kissinger made a great point in an interview with Eric Schmidt paraphrased: 'We have lived a fairly peaceful period in the last century with a stable world order, we should not assume that this is guaranteed to continue forever.' We usually don't lik…

I start to think that in an ordinary human lifetime it is more likely than not to experience disaster. If you were born in 1945 and are still alive today, you may have picked the most lucky period to have lived through of all possible. I am not concvinced the next 75 years will be as peaceful as the past 75.

Re: Traffic cameras expose your location through parking apps

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post #2

The gist of it: I can subscribe to location updates for any license plate that I want, without knowledge or consent from the owner of that car.

Something you could do anyway with a network of $50 android phones mounted on bridges over freeways. But this way you don't have to pay for the cameras - someone else has done it for you.

I know Philadelphia has a network of publicly accessible traffic cameras that were installed by the city. I assume other places have them too.

Re: Traffic cameras expose your location through parking apps

#24

At this point I’m carrying so many electronic devices with me or at home that I’ve give up on going out of my way to prevent getting tracked. My best effort is to trust Apple doesn’t sell me out.

> At this point I’m carrying so many electronic devices with me or at home that I’ve give up on going out of my way to prevent getting tracked As much as I hate the guy, Kissinger made a great point in an interview with Eric Schmidt paraphrased: 'We have lived a fairly peaceful period in the last century with a stable world order, we should not assume that this is guaranteed to continue forever.' We usually don't lik…

"Equally, today caring about my privacy is just adding a lot of friction to me daily live. 50 years from now, I have no guarantee that myself or someone in my family becomes 'a person of interest' for my government."

Careful there. Now you're sounding like you you don't want to obey the government/laws if you don't agree with what is created in the future. At least this has been the argument around many gun laws that create registries, quasi-registries, or release identity information publically, especially with the Overton window and rhetoric.

Edit: why disagree? Really, still no response? Isn't this the general play that is being mentioned in the prior comment - information gathered now can be used against them by the government in the future when the laws change or are ignored? Is this only an issue when it's applied to some people or topics but not others?

Re: Traffic cameras expose your location through parking apps

#25
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> At this point I’m carrying so many electronic devices with me or at home that I’ve give up on going out of my way to prevent getting tracked As much as I hate the guy, Kissinger made a great point in an interview with Eric Schmidt paraphrased: 'We have lived a fairly peaceful period in the last century with a stable world order, we should not assume that this is guaranteed to continue forever.' We usually don't lik…

I start to think that in an ordinary human lifetime it is more likely than not to experience disaster. If you were born in 1945 and are still alive today, you may have picked the most lucky period to have lived through of all possible. I am not concvinced the next 75 years will be as peaceful as the past 75.

I'm not sure how true that is. I think it's dependent on location really or country for conflicts. Some places have seen a lot of violence. Violent crime rates were pretty high in some areas too.

Re: Traffic cameras expose your location through parking apps

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In my country, the EasyPark app seems to have taken a lot of the market. Almost every parking space I see now has it as an option, including spaces owned by the city. Thankfully, they currently still support paying with cash, but machines often don't return change and only accept coins, so they can be inconvenient.

It's shocking to compare the privacy aspect of the app: instead of anonymously throwing some coins into a machine and putting a slip on your dashboard, the app needs: your phone number, your plate number, your credit card details and full GPS access. They're not hiding this: It's explained in their GDPR privacy notice that they track and store your phone location and travel routes even when you're not using a parking space.

On top of that, you also pay more for parking when using the app, since they take some percentage commission of the parking cost (apparently depending on your account options, but I never got far enough with the app to find this out)

Re: Traffic cameras expose your location through parking apps

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As soon as you put a huge identification plate on your vehicle there’s no expectation of privacy.

That depends. We could set standards for what information is linked to that plate and to whom it is accessible. (My state actually has a standard for some info which should not be tied to a plate, but they do it anyways. But nobody is going to stop them. I brought it up to the AG's office, but they were complete idiots about it)

One could also set up an anonymous LLC and register the vehicle that way if they really cared.

Re: Traffic cameras expose your location through parking apps

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Something you could do anyway with a network of $50 android phones mounted on bridges over freeways. But this way you don't have to pay for the cameras - someone else has done it for you.

I know Philadelphia has a network of publicly accessible traffic cameras that were installed by the city. I assume other places have them too.

Quebec has the same: https://quebec511.info

Re: Traffic cameras expose your location through parking apps

#29
post #9

Just another reason to preference walking and cycling.

A bike is a great mode of transportation when you don't need to carry anything heavy, bulky, passengers etc. and when weather permits. It's not a replacement for a vehicle, nor will it ever be.

Narrow thinking. Cargo bikes come in a variety of shapes and sizes to carry children, adults, parcels, moving boxes, and more. As for the weather... well, as we say in Denmark: there's no such thing as bad weather, just bad clothing.

Re: Traffic cameras expose your location through parking apps

#30

As soon as you put a huge identification plate on your vehicle there’s no expectation of privacy.

I didn't put them on there, they already were there when I picked the car up. And every time I try taking them off people get angry at me.
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