James Earl Jones Signs Off on Using Recordings to Recreate Voice with AI • Hacker News Board

Re: James Earl Jones Signs Off on Using Recordings to Recreate Voice with AI

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Post by Eleison23 » Sun, Sep 25, 2022, 2:31 AM UTC

flat-pluto wrote: post #15

Makes me wonder about copyright when it comes to voice synthesis via AI. Like legally speaking, did they "need" JEJ to sign off on this as opposed to just using his voice as training data? In the near future, I imagine it'd be easy enough to take a snippet of audio and transfer a celebrity's voice to it, similar to what we can already do to images using StyleGAN or something similar. Exciting times ahead!

I think it was far less expensive for them to team up with Jones in the first place and create a PR buzz, rather than striking out on their own and risking a lawsuit by Jones or his estate, 100 years down the road. They fully realize this will soon be tested in the courts, and they don't want to pioneer that case law.

Re: James Earl Jones Signs Off on Using Recordings to Recreate Voice with AI

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Post by dTal » Sun, Sep 25, 2022, 10:49 AM UTC

blamazon wrote: post #18

gibspaulding wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Off topic, but does this drive anyone else crazy? Why is changing my route opt out rather than opt in. As far as I can tell there's not even a setting to change that.

I'm with you. There is no setting. This drives me nuts on my motorcycle. I pick the nice scenic route, put the device into my pocket, (Bluetooth speakers in helmet) and then halfway through my very zen ride, this happens and I can do nothing but rage internally and try to remember to pull over and fix it, only for it to happen again 30 minutes later. Google: you know I'm on a motorcycle. I see that on my location tim…

How does it know you're on a motorcycle? I can imagine that it would be possible to detect fairly reliably with smartphone sensors (correlate curved ground path with gyro tilt), but it's astonishing and frightening that they would put in the effort to go that far.

Re: James Earl Jones Signs Off on Using Recordings to Recreate Voice with AI

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Post by SanjayMehta » Sun, Sep 25, 2022, 1:47 PM UTC

dTal wrote: post #22

blamazon wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm with you. There is no setting. This drives me nuts on my motorcycle. I pick the nice scenic route, put the device into my pocket, (Bluetooth speakers in helmet) and then halfway through my very zen ride, this happens and I can do nothing but rage internally and try to remember to pull over and fix it, only for it to happen again 30 minutes later. Google: you know I'm on a motorcycle. I see that on my location tim…

How does it know you're on a motorcycle? I can imagine that it would be possible to detect fairly reliably with smartphone sensors (correlate curved ground path with gyro tilt), but it's astonishing and frightening that they would put in the effort to go that far.

Some 4-5 years ago someone analyzed an Android phone and showed they even know when you've exited a car.

I'll update this comment with a link when I find it.

Re: James Earl Jones Signs Off on Using Recordings to Recreate Voice with AI

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Post by blamazon » Sun, Sep 25, 2022, 3:21 PM UTC

dTal wrote: post #22

blamazon wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm with you. There is no setting. This drives me nuts on my motorcycle. I pick the nice scenic route, put the device into my pocket, (Bluetooth speakers in helmet) and then halfway through my very zen ride, this happens and I can do nothing but rage internally and try to remember to pull over and fix it, only for it to happen again 30 minutes later. Google: you know I'm on a motorcycle. I see that on my location tim…

How does it know you're on a motorcycle? I can imagine that it would be possible to detect fairly reliably with smartphone sensors (correlate curved ground path with gyro tilt), but it's astonishing and frightening that they would put in the effort to go that far.

I think you pretty much described the mechanism there. My friends and I have experimented with "riding like a car" and we can trick the algorithm for short distances if we really think about keeping the phone upright.

The keywords to learn more seem to be "activity recognition API" and I'm pretty sure they have been doing the motorcycle thing for the better part of a decade:

https://developers.google.com/location-context/activity-reco...