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The Ungodly Surveillance of Anti-Porn ‘Shameware’ Apps

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There is ample evidence pointing to the harm porn has on people and families.

Could you share some of this evidence that hopefully isn't from obviously religious sources or religiously funded?

Porn addiction is a treatable mental illness in all first world countries.

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The article doesn't strike me as super biased, but it may be a bit shallow regarding the issues. If one doesn't start with the premise that Christian beliefs are bogus, then I'd be interested in: - How could someone realistically use the modern Internet and still avoid content that starts them down unwelcome paths? (A secular analogue might be suicide ideation.) - How could that guy's accountability partner have bett…

>If one doesn't start with the premise that Christian beliefs are bogus I get where you're coming from, and as long as no one is compelling the "victim" I think they should be free to make their own mistakes. That said, it's very well proven that you cannot change your sexual orientation and anyone claiming you can is a fraudster whether they dress as a priest or medical professional or an "accountability partner" or…

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> Fortify’s inclusion of Facebook’s Pixel isn’t just a privacy issue, it’s a security problem. While testing the app, we also noticed that the password to our account was sent in plaintext to Facebook in the URL of the tracking requests. Facebook claims to have filtering mechanisms to prevent its systems from storing this type of personal information, but Fortify’s apparent oversight is still concerning to experts li…

Being a good Christian is all about trust! Just trust that Facebook won’t store your password and that Fortify will eventually fix this!

Being a good Christian shall not exclude rationality. Someone who has your password might use it or sell it to somebody who might use it.

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To answer the questions about the guy's accountability partner: the guy didn't (truly and freely) choose his accountability partner, his "accountability partner", actually "monitor", chose him. Add: And it seems the guy was rushed ("forced") into installing the app and agreeing to the "solution".

That’s the way they wrote it. In reality, having an accountability partner is not new and it’s likely this guy signed on for it. Think of it like an AA sponsor - however poorly implemented here.

If it was Jeff Bezos assigning an employee a "pee accountability partner", would you also say "this is what this guy signed on for" by working for him?

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I think if one takes Christianity seriously then they would recognize that sinning takes place in the mind, and that putting a chastity belt on your phone doesn't really change anything, not going down wrong paths is supposed to be a choice, not the product of community phone surveillance. God knows if you want to look at porn. I don't think there is a non-bogus version of this especially if you are a Christian . An…

Sin is a heart issue. There are only two choices on the shelf: Pleasing God, or pleasing self.

Are you suggesting that God is completely opposed to everything we value?

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Sin is a heart issue. There are only two choices on the shelf: Pleasing God, or pleasing self.

Are you suggesting that God is completely opposed to everything we value?

There are so many different versions of Christianity that it would be extremely likely to receive contradictory answers to your question.

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Could you share some of this evidence that hopefully isn't from obviously religious sources or religiously funded?

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Search engines find lots of things, including misinformation. Also, people can read a source and misunderstand it, or ignore the parts that are inconvenient for them. That's why links to specific pages are useful.

For example, let's look at the second link...

The study itself explicitly mentions that correlation is not causation. For example, erectile dysfunction correlate with long-term porn use. Okay, but does it prove that watching porn ruins your erection? Or is it perhaps the other way round, that men with erectile dysfunction have more difficulty finding sex partners or perhaps find sex less enjoyable, and therefore spend more time watching porn?

(If you just assume that correlation = bad effect, let me tell you a shocking fact: use of chemotherapy is correlated with having cancer. Perhaps we should also ban chemotherapy. /s)

Furthermore, some of the effects are arguably good: "pornography use may reduce risky sexual behaviors", "women involved in long-term relationships that use pornography more frequently may reveal increased sexual desire towards their partners", "shared viewing of pornography in heterosexual couples correlates with increase of sexual satisfaction".

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Are you suggesting that God is completely opposed to everything we value?

There are so many different versions of Christianity that it would be extremely likely to receive contradictory answers to your question.

I am most curious about the ones who worship Evil God (the one who literally hates everything that humans consider good).
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