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We Need New Motherboards Before GPUs Collapse Under Their Own Gravity

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Re: We Need New Motherboards Before GPUs Collapse Under Their Own Gravity

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post #11

Why can't I find a recent GPU that doesn't take up half my case? Do the GPU manufacturers not care about people who want more than onboard graphics but don't need the most powerful gaming GPU?

What's wrong with the NVidia 1630 or 1660, or AMD 6400, or Intel Arc 380?

Re: We Need New Motherboards Before GPUs Collapse Under Their Own Gravity

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New design: Switch things around and stick the CPU into a slot on the GPU.

The GPU should be the motherboard, and everything sticks onto it.

This is gpu manufacturing "wet dream" endgame

Re: We Need New Motherboards Before GPUs Collapse Under Their Own Gravity

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1. While I agree we're beginning to reach absurd proportions, lets really analyze the situation and think about it. 2. Are there any GPUs that actually have performed physical damage on a motherboard slot? 3. GPUs are already 2-wide by default, and some are 3-wide. 4-wide GPUs will have more support from the chassis. This seems like the simpler solution, especially since most people rarely have a 2nd add in card at a…

> 2. Are there any GPUs that actually have performed physical damage on a motherboard slot?

I have a MSI RTX 3070 2 fan model. It hasn't damaged my PCI-E slot (I think), but it's weight and sag causes some bending that now makes it so that my fan bearing makes a loud noise if spun up high.

My solution has been to turn my PC case so the motherboard is parallel to the ground and the GPU sticks straight up, eliminating the sag. Whisper quiet now.

If this is happening with my GPU, I shudder to imagine what it's like with other GPUs out there which are much bigger and heavier.

Re: We Need New Motherboards Before GPUs Collapse Under Their Own Gravity

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1. While I agree we're beginning to reach absurd proportions, lets really analyze the situation and think about it. 2. Are there any GPUs that actually have performed physical damage on a motherboard slot? 3. GPUs are already 2-wide by default, and some are 3-wide. 4-wide GPUs will have more support from the chassis. This seems like the simpler solution, especially since most people rarely have a 2nd add in card at a…

> PCIe extenders need to become a thing again

PCIe extenders are a thing already. Current PC case fashion trends have already influenced the inclusion of extenders and a place to vertically mount the GPU to the case off the motherboard.

GPU sag is also a bit of a silly problem for the motherboard to handle when $10 universal GPU support brackets already exist.

Re: We Need New Motherboards Before GPUs Collapse Under Their Own Gravity

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1. While I agree we're beginning to reach absurd proportions, lets really analyze the situation and think about it. 2. Are there any GPUs that actually have performed physical damage on a motherboard slot? 3. GPUs are already 2-wide by default, and some are 3-wide. 4-wide GPUs will have more support from the chassis. This seems like the simpler solution, especially since most people rarely have a 2nd add in card at a…

Yeah, I have a motherboard with a bent out of shape port because of the weight of the card in it. My current desktop has a sag of easily half an inch at the end of the card and it’s not even a particularly large one by current standards. The ATX spec obviously wasn’t designed with GPUs this heavy and this power hungry.

Re: We Need New Motherboards Before GPUs Collapse Under Their Own Gravity

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Problem is that the card retainers in the spec would all, I suppose, need to align with the chassis. Card widths are highly variable, so all manufacturers would need to change their card designs to allow for at least providing aftermarket retainers on them.

Re: We Need New Motherboards Before GPUs Collapse Under Their Own Gravity

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post #22

Compare the size of the new air-cooled 40XX cards and the iChill 4090, which is tiny by comparison. The simple answer is just to use liquid cooling if you have a card using 400w. Then all the absurdity just goes away.

The water cooling on my 3090 is heavier than the air cooling for the same card, as you need a coldplate on both sides of the thing to get rid of the heat.
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