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My vision is that all the current use of IT should work in this mode. Depending on a central server for synchronization should be the exception, not the norm.
How would you handle granular permissions though?
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#22>Ditto is designed for "peer-to-peer" synchronization where it can directly communicate with other devices even without an internet connection. In addition, Ditto automatically manages the complexity of using multiple network transports, like Bluetooth, P2P Wi-Fi, and Local Area Network, to find and connect to other devices and then synchronize any changes.[1] This is cool ! I have no idea what's the use-case behind…
Re: Ditto: Real-time sync for apps even without the internet
#23>Ditto is designed for "peer-to-peer" synchronization where it can directly communicate with other devices even without an internet connection. In addition, Ditto automatically manages the complexity of using multiple network transports, like Bluetooth, P2P Wi-Fi, and Local Area Network, to find and connect to other devices and then synchronize any changes.[1] This is cool ! I have no idea what's the use-case behind…
My vision is that all the current use of IT should work in this mode. Depending on a central server for synchronization should be the exception, not the norm.
Of course, Realm was later acquired by MongoDB, and currently exists as some kind of Frankenstein's monster product in an attempt to drum up Atlas sales.
Interesting how the acquisition pushed some of the devs to create better tech, but they had to give up the original product along the way.
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#24Looks interesting but a few questions I don’t see answered in the docs: How do permissions work? Ie if I had a notes app, and wanted users to only be able to upset and query _their_ notes, how do I make that happen? Why no LAN for web browser mode? A pwa with offline support should be able to sync with other resolvable ips on the same pan, no? Hopefully WebBluetooth will be available soon too?
Looks like LAN depends on multicast for discovery, which isn't available in browsers as far as I can tell: https://docs.ditto.live/javascript/common/mesh-network/suppo... Regardless you definitely wouldn't be able to do browser-to-browser discovery and connection via HTTP or WebSockets, since you can't create a web server in browser, but I imagine you could do P2P via WebRTC if you can just find a way to discover the…
Re: Ditto: Real-time sync for apps even without the internet
#25>Ditto is designed for "peer-to-peer" synchronization where it can directly communicate with other devices even without an internet connection. In addition, Ditto automatically manages the complexity of using multiple network transports, like Bluetooth, P2P Wi-Fi, and Local Area Network, to find and connect to other devices and then synchronize any changes.[1] This is cool ! I have no idea what's the use-case behind…
Super cool to see us on HN! The use cases are for projects, products, enterprises to build collaborative apps that can sync with the internet but fall back to local P2P connections when internet connectivity fails. Furthermore we added offline first as an additional guard for some resiliency.
We help solve a class of apps like:
1. Desk-less worker apps for the enterprise: think people who use mobile apps for the vast majority of their work: pilots, flight attendants, construction, maintenance 2. Retail, inventory warehousing, point of sale systems where being able to communicate between kiosks, service tablets, and display systems quickly even if there are interruptions in service 3. Education: it’s very often parents give their kids phones without a data plan, so their school or learning apps need to be able to collaborate with other students or teachers regardless of connectivity 4. Robotics, agriculture technology, IoT - often these applications have hard requirements to communicate with other local devices without any dependency of the internet
I can keep going!
Again, So happy to see us on HN! Thank you!
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#27>Ditto is designed for "peer-to-peer" synchronization where it can directly communicate with other devices even without an internet connection. In addition, Ditto automatically manages the complexity of using multiple network transports, like Bluetooth, P2P Wi-Fi, and Local Area Network, to find and connect to other devices and then synchronize any changes.[1] This is cool ! I have no idea what's the use-case behind…
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#29>Ditto is designed for "peer-to-peer" synchronization where it can directly communicate with other devices even without an internet connection. In addition, Ditto automatically manages the complexity of using multiple network transports, like Bluetooth, P2P Wi-Fi, and Local Area Network, to find and connect to other devices and then synchronize any changes.[1] This is cool ! I have no idea what's the use-case behind…
Max, CoFounder of Ditto here. Super cool to see us on HN! The use cases are for projects, products, enterprises to build collaborative apps that can sync with the internet but fall back to local P2P connections when internet connectivity fails. Furthermore we added offline first as an additional guard for some resiliency. We help solve a class of apps like: 1. Desk-less worker apps for the enterprise: think people wh…
EDIT: is there ever a plan to open this as a spec?
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#30What is the proudly-displayed use case from the US Airforce? Something with its new unguided bombs they’re testing, or the new bomber it’s rolling out this year? The hundreds of Phoenix Ghost “Kamikaze” drone bombs they just revealed? Are programs like this funding this project? I will pass.