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Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair

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Re: Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair

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Post by reaperducer »

thepasswordis wrote: post #11
SayMyName wrote: post #8

Odd article considering everything is still software locked to the phone. Sure it's easier to repair, but if you get your parts from anywhere else than apple's program directly, a lot of features will stop working. Hugh Jeffreys made a video interchanging parts on two brand new iphone's and it disabled a lot of things including auto-brightness. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2WhU77ihw8

Ah, so there is a way to disable auto brightness! Are there any aftermarket upgrades which will also permanently disable "live photos"?

Not aftermarket, but Apple offers something for both of those. It's called The Manual.

You can get one here: https://support.apple.com/manuals/iphone

It's even free!

Re: Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair

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Post by radicaldreamer »

mmazing wrote: post #5

https://valkyrie.cdn.ifixit.com/media/2022/09/18133349/iPhon... Uh, look at that wonky Qualcomm SDR735 chip. Actually looking at it a bit closer it seems like the board was destroyed during disassembly?

Taking all the shielding off those chips is probably what destroyed the board. Without doing that though, these images would just have all the chips covered by shielding metals/alloys.

Re: Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair

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Post by rTX5CMRXIfFG »

I’m not sure I care much about repairability. For me, makers should have the freedom to design products as they wish. I don’t think that phones and laptops would be as light and portable as iPhones and Macs are if Apple was inhibited by the Right to Repair movement from arranging internal components in such a jampacked way.

I also think that makers should have the freedom to design computers whose software tightly integrate with the hardware. Repairing a broken part with a third-party is exactly the opposite of tight integration. If people didn’t want tight integration, then products that are built specifically for tight integration are just not the right tool for the job that they want to do, and I don’t understand why they can’t simply choose not to buy the product. It’s not like the phone and computer markets are monopolies either. Androids and PCs of all form factors and OSes exist.

It would make more sense to me to call for regulation against pricing abuse for the repairs of tightly integrated products. The Right to Repair movement as it stands just doesn’t resonate much with me, nor do I agree with it, because integrated products that come with everything you need make for great user experiences.

Re: Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair

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Post by tjoff »

millzlane wrote: post #12
SayMyName wrote: post #8

Odd article considering everything is still software locked to the phone. Sure it's easier to repair, but if you get your parts from anywhere else than apple's program directly, a lot of features will stop working. Hugh Jeffreys made a video interchanging parts on two brand new iphone's and it disabled a lot of things including auto-brightness. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2WhU77ihw8

This makes it easier for my technicians when customers lie by omission when they have had their device repaired someplace else and they bring it back to us for repair. It's not until we get into the repair and find out someone has stripped screws that can't be removed without extraction tools and replaced LSI's. It's also nice for consumers who get their devices stolen strictly for parts. Preventing someone from basi…

The first part doesn't require functionality to be disabled though.

Re: Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair

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Post by formerly_proven »

dmitrygr wrote: post #18

> We are hearing reports that Apple is continuing their hostile path of pairing parts to the phone, requiring activation of the back glass after installation. On the other hand, this makes stealing an iPhone more and more pointless, as more and more parts cannot be parted out and sold. After activation lock was added, thieves started parting out screens and batteries to sell them and get at least some value out of an…

There’s no expectation of getting an open platform with iDevices so anything that disincentives stealing them is a plus.

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Post by Swenrekcah »

dmitrygr wrote: post #18

> We are hearing reports that Apple is continuing their hostile path of pairing parts to the phone, requiring activation of the back glass after installation. On the other hand, this makes stealing an iPhone more and more pointless, as more and more parts cannot be parted out and sold. After activation lock was added, thieves started parting out screens and batteries to sell them and get at least some value out of an…

That goal could presumably also be accomplished by enabling the owner to check a "stolen" box in their iCloud and after that all serialized parts of that phone go on a blacklist. An iPhone checks every day or something if any of it's parts are blacklisted and refuses to work if true.

To prevent a massive attack on Apple by corrupting the blacklist, the phones would only perform this check if any of the factory parts have been replaced.

Re: Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair

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Post by devrand »

SayMyName wrote: post #8

Odd article considering everything is still software locked to the phone. Sure it's easier to repair, but if you get your parts from anywhere else than apple's program directly, a lot of features will stop working. Hugh Jeffreys made a video interchanging parts on two brand new iphone's and it disabled a lot of things including auto-brightness. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2WhU77ihw8

This does coincide with Apple changing Applecare+ to cover an unlimited number of incidents. Their motivation was simply to streamline their own internal repairs?

Re: Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair

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Post by dijit »

jitl wrote: post #9

Apple started offering home repair kits for iPhone this year, but they’re super difficult to use: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/25/technology/personaltech/a... There’s speculation that offering the kits is an attempt to head off right-to-repair legislation. But seeing this redesign, I wonder to what degree the repair program is incentivizing repairability within apple’s corporate structure. Now that “profit/loss pe…

> but they’re super difficult to use

I can't read the link as it's paywalled: but my understanding of the Apple tools is that they're hilariously over-engineered; not that they're hard to use.

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