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Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk

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Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk

#21

Oh, nice, my company is just integrating Okta. Is Cuba still being punished for daring to host Soviet missiles? I think the way we've treated them is really terrible.

At this point, Cuba is stuck being a chip in presidential politics to win Florida’s electoral votes.

Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk

#22

It's sad that people in occupied regions of Ukraine are punished twice, by Russian government and by US government too.

I’ve seen videos where captured Russian soldiers are actually conscripts from the contested regions.

I would think they have a lot more to worry about than okta authentication.

Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk

#23

Don’t offload authentication to third parties… People didn’t learn their lesson from Facebook etc etc.

I’ll take SSO over manually logging into 8-10 company apps I use. If the team implementing an onprem SSS/IDP solution has deep domain knowledge and sys admin skills go for it. Had issues before and cloud based providers like Okta were much better, IMHO.

Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk

#24

Oh, nice, my company is just integrating Okta. Is Cuba still being punished for daring to host Soviet missiles? I think the way we've treated them is really terrible.

At this point, Cuba is stuck being a chip in presidential politics to win Florida’s electoral votes.

Meaning if commerce with Cuba was not ban it would be a threat to Florida’s economy?

Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk

#25
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One thing I've always been curious about is why the opportunity created by this sort of thing doesn't seem to be taken advantage of. To take Iran as an example: when US sanctions prevent Boeing or Airbus from selling to them, I can understand why Embraer doesn't step in and offer to supply planes, because they are afraid of secondary sanctions affecting their business with the rest of the world. But tech isn't like a…

Theoretically, anyone can do that. Why would people in Iran spend money on such a bespoke solution? Anyone who does that has to pay off other people too.

Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk

#26
"In support of our customers’ and Okta’s existing contractual obligations with respect to U.S. export control laws, Okta customers are not permitted to access the Okta Service (including the Auth0 Platform) from Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Syria, the regions of Crimea, Luhansk or Donetsk without prior approval from the U.S. Government. This restriction applies even if a User is temporarily visiting any of the aforementioned regions."

Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk

#27
post #14

One thing I've always been curious about is why the opportunity created by this sort of thing doesn't seem to be taken advantage of. To take Iran as an example: when US sanctions prevent Boeing or Airbus from selling to them, I can understand why Embraer doesn't step in and offer to supply planes, because they are afraid of secondary sanctions affecting their business with the rest of the world. But tech isn't like a…

In Iran there are alternatives to many services. There are domestic cloud providers, a domestic android marketplace, there was a domestic Apple marketplace (and will show up again when Apple opens the platform to alternative stores), alternative video sharing platform, etc.

Working in/with Iran has other difficulties in addition to sanctions. Iranian government has total control over what services from outside Iran are accessible to Iranians. They also use this control elaborately, in some fields whitelisting services rather than blacklisting them. So if you want to work with Iran from outside, you are always at the mercy of the government to block you.

If working from inside, you are under pressure to share people's private information with the government en masse. You have no way to resist that. The courts are puppets, price of resistance can be anywhere from takeover of your business, to prison, to death.

Oh and from outside, you have the problem of exchange rate: due to 40+years of 40+% inflation, what you earn from there cannot even cover your costs outside the country, unless you do the entire business from another country with similar economy.

Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk

#28
post #14

One thing I've always been curious about is why the opportunity created by this sort of thing doesn't seem to be taken advantage of. To take Iran as an example: when US sanctions prevent Boeing or Airbus from selling to them, I can understand why Embraer doesn't step in and offer to supply planes, because they are afraid of secondary sanctions affecting their business with the rest of the world. But tech isn't like a…

Most of the time these sanctions are global in nature and various treaties that US has with different countries prevent companies in those countries also doing business with sanctioned nations.

Sanctions are absolutely not global in nature. Iran trades extensively with countries in the region.

Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk

#29
post #14

One thing I've always been curious about is why the opportunity created by this sort of thing doesn't seem to be taken advantage of. To take Iran as an example: when US sanctions prevent Boeing or Airbus from selling to them, I can understand why Embraer doesn't step in and offer to supply planes, because they are afraid of secondary sanctions affecting their business with the rest of the world. But tech isn't like a…

You don't even need to jump through this many hoops - somebody from Iran can just do it. And maybe they do, but overall I don't think the market is that big. All of these companies operate globally because it's otherwise difficult to make a profit.

In other news, setting up businesses that go around US sanctions is not something the US will just wave off. Bullies don't accept their authority questioned.

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