Live data from Hacker News

Merge soon

ultrasound.money

21–30 of 137 posts

Re: Merge soon

#21
post #7
post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

lol They will never be silent. The goalposts will move endlessly.

Some people don’t trust the government, other people do. I like a liquid, fungible asset not controlled by the government. Statists don’t. It’s a philosophical debate more than a technical one at this point.

Personally, I like a currency I can walk into a shop and buy a sandwich with.

Re: Merge soon

#22
post #5
post #2

This deserves to be the top spot on HN right now. Years of countless replies and mockery here across N accounts telling me this day would _never_ happen. Yet here we are, we're finally about to break away from the shackles of PoW and the crypto skeptics are silent. EDIT: I'm rate limited/soft banned so I can't reply to most of you/anyone until tomorrow. While I can still edit: -Cash is the ultimate scammer currency,…

My stance has been “I’ll believe it when I see it” after years of the merge being “months” away. I’m a skeptic but happy to see a major cryptocurrency switching off the planet burner.

Same, also a skeptic. Glad to see the project has met a minimum bar of environmental acceptability and GPUs are available again. I’ve seen this promised for so many years, so I’m not sure any congrats is really in order… Anyways I have no idea how the economics of PoS can work but hopefully people don’t lose all their money. The only complaint I have about this is I suspect the shills will be out in full force, trying to get my cash into their market cap.

Re: Merge soon

#23
post #2

This deserves to be the top spot on HN right now. Years of countless replies and mockery here across N accounts telling me this day would _never_ happen. Yet here we are, we're finally about to break away from the shackles of PoW and the crypto skeptics are silent. EDIT: I'm rate limited/soft banned so I can't reply to most of you/anyone until tomorrow. While I can still edit: -Cash is the ultimate scammer currency,…

Yes. The environmental argument of Ethereum 'burning up the planet' is now about to be addressed and that will silence the endless criticism made by the extreme crypto skeptics about Ethereum incinerating the planet.

They will now just congratulate the re-centralization of Ethereum running on Proof-of-Stake.

The crypto-skeptics will never be silent, but I can assure you that crypto is still here to stay, with some crypto projects surviving and some of them will not survive.

Re: Merge soon

#24

The biggest gap between people involved with the Ethereum ecosystem vs. mainstream media seems to be that the former are focused on the economic impact of The Merge, while the latter is focused on the environmental impact. Don't get me wrong, reducing energy costs is great and everyone agrees with that, but the resulting changes in monetary policy are probably even more impactful. But of course this is not sensationa…

False dichotomy. What nobody pays attention to is that the entire thing is a cartel and only incentivizes restricting freedom over time and automating turmoil. It’s a complete disgrace to what cyberspace represents. It’s an opportunistic, exploitative, incompatible, deprecated, deficient paradigm stuck in a physically-constrained view of the future perpetually hindering progress due to preventing the mind in being ab…

That's a personally philosophical stance rather than an objective truth. Like anarchism vs communism vs capitalism.

Re: Merge soon

#26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One can be both positive about the benefit that this move brings, yet deeply negative about the overall value of crypto.

This is absolutely where I stand. Hurrah, Ethereum's cost on humanity and the environment is dropping drastically! Unfortunately, it still has a measurable (if no longer grotesque ) cost with extremely dubious benefit.

And what is that cost if not environmental?

Re: Merge soon

#27
post #2

This deserves to be the top spot on HN right now. Years of countless replies and mockery here across N accounts telling me this day would _never_ happen. Yet here we are, we're finally about to break away from the shackles of PoW and the crypto skeptics are silent. EDIT: I'm rate limited/soft banned so I can't reply to most of you/anyone until tomorrow. While I can still edit: -Cash is the ultimate scammer currency,…

> we're finally about to break away from the shackles of PoW and the crypto skeptics are silent.

One very popular cryptocurrency is making the switch. That still leaves Bitcoin, with double the trading volume, and most of the other popular cryptocurrencies.

More importantly it doesn't change the fundamental problem with crypto: it's deliberately difficult to regulate, which means that it's still a scammer's paradise.

And Ethereum's price can still fluctuate wildly on any given day, making it unsuitable for most real-world transactions.

Re: Merge soon

#28

The biggest gap between people involved with the Ethereum ecosystem vs. mainstream media seems to be that the former are focused on the economic impact of The Merge, while the latter is focused on the environmental impact. Don't get me wrong, reducing energy costs is great and everyone agrees with that, but the resulting changes in monetary policy are probably even more impactful. But of course this is not sensationa…

[deleted]

Re: Merge soon

#29
post #9
post #2

This deserves to be the top spot on HN right now. Years of countless replies and mockery here across N accounts telling me this day would _never_ happen. Yet here we are, we're finally about to break away from the shackles of PoW and the crypto skeptics are silent. EDIT: I'm rate limited/soft banned so I can't reply to most of you/anyone until tomorrow. While I can still edit: -Cash is the ultimate scammer currency,…

Can someone summarize what is happening?

The people who are Etherium-wealthy are changing Etherium to mean they stay wealthy without having to burn the planet solving meaningless puzzles, while at the same time creating an insurmountable barrier to anybody else becoming obscenely Etherium-wealthy like they are. This is apparently a "good thing". The real world continues to not care.

Re: Merge soon

#30
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some people don’t trust the government, other people do. I like a liquid, fungible asset not controlled by the government. Statists don’t. It’s a philosophical debate more than a technical one at this point.

Personally, I like a currency I can walk into a shop and buy a sandwich with.

If the only use case for crypto was to buy sandwiches then it wouldn't be a trillion dollar asset class. That isn't the main use case at this point
Post reply on HN