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iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Re: iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Post by MBCook »

dividedbyzero wrote: post #16
saurik wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah... I love my iPhone XS Max, partly because it has 2x telephoto--not 2.5x, not 3x or 4x of all the ridiculous things: just a good 2x--and I essentially use that 2x telephoto lens every chance I can. They finally have come up with an iPhone that has brought back 2x telephoto... but as a digital simulation from 1x and thereby only at 12MP, and so it isn't fundamentally different than my existing phone :/. (I do app…

What's wrong with the 3x ones on the 13 and 14 Pros?

It’s often “too much”. You wish it was zoomed out just a bit more, but if you do that it’s a digital zoom on the 1x lens so you lose quality.

Re: iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Post by bredren »

yodsanklai wrote: post #7

I wonder if it's because I'm getting old and jaded, but I really fail to get excited by this continuous flow of new devices (and "stuff" in general). I could get a new iPhone from my company, but I don't even see the point.

I like to use and have my close friends and family use the newest possible iPhones. The reason is that they collect photos and video of each other and in some cases these will be looked at or treasured for years to come.

I have a pal who has a baby coming and I reminded him to make sure he gets his iPhone upgrade program replacement done in time.

My mom's partner, I ask him to keep his updated because these are photos and video of my mom who won't be here forever.

Not only do these devices capture the most consistent, high fidelity data, you almost have to try to screw up having the data automatically backed up.

The cost of keeping the devices updated is relatively low, and the device switch process has improved __every__ year. New devices require new OS's which get the most attention and latest patches, etc.

Re: iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Post by OGWhales »

yodsanklai wrote: post #7

I wonder if it's because I'm getting old and jaded, but I really fail to get excited by this continuous flow of new devices (and "stuff" in general). I could get a new iPhone from my company, but I don't even see the point.

If you don’t benefit from the upgrades, of course you aren’t excited about them. If you do benefit from them, it’s more exciting.

I was excited when I got the iPhone 13 Pro because of the LiDAR ToF sensor and being able to utilize Apple’s new object capture API. I was also excited to have a zoom lens, as my old phone (iPhone 7) did not have one. These were all things I had a clear use case for, so it makes sense I was excited for the upgrade.

I think it’s okay to not be excited when you don’t have a reason to be. Don’t assume that means you’re old and jaded.

Re: iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Post by itg »

The Verge also mentioned that Apple goes overboard when it comes to noise reduction lately with their phones. It becomes really obvious when you compare an iPhone 13 with say a Pixel phone and there have been many complaints about it. Instead it looks like they continued to double down with it on the iPhone 14. It's a shame since they have such good hardware and ruin the pics with their photo processing pipeline.

Re: iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Post by tern »

dividedbyzero wrote: post #16
saurik wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah... I love my iPhone XS Max, partly because it has 2x telephoto--not 2.5x, not 3x or 4x of all the ridiculous things: just a good 2x--and I essentially use that 2x telephoto lens every chance I can. They finally have come up with an iPhone that has brought back 2x telephoto... but as a digital simulation from 1x and thereby only at 12MP, and so it isn't fundamentally different than my existing phone :/. (I do app…

What's wrong with the 3x ones on the 13 and 14 Pros?

It's an 85mm equivalent focal length, which is comparatively niche (to 50mm, aka "standard" focal length)

85mm is great for head shots, detail shots, video b-roll, etc. and limiting for general use, unless your style is all about subject isolation, telephoto, compression, etc.

Photographers often fall into categories of focal length usage. Some prefer the 24-35mm/85mm pair and skip "normal". Some shoot mainly 50mm. Landscape photographers often shoot 16-35mm and then 70mm+.

My sweet spot is 50-100mm, which was well served by the dedicated 2x camera (I'm often fine with digital zoom—the artifacts are part of the style).

So, they've made a reasonable choice, but 50mm lovers are left out.

Re: iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Post by drexlspivey »

itg wrote: post #25

The Verge also mentioned that Apple goes overboard when it comes to noise reduction lately with their phones. It becomes really obvious when you compare an iPhone 13 with say a Pixel phone and there have been many complaints about it. Instead it looks like they continued to double down with it on the iPhone 14. It's a shame since they have such good hardware and ruin the pics with their photo processing pipeline.

You can shoot RAW and skip all the processing if you think it ruins the picture

Re: iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Post by Saris »

itg wrote: post #25

The Verge also mentioned that Apple goes overboard when it comes to noise reduction lately with their phones. It becomes really obvious when you compare an iPhone 13 with say a Pixel phone and there have been many complaints about it. Instead it looks like they continued to double down with it on the iPhone 14. It's a shame since they have such good hardware and ruin the pics with their photo processing pipeline.

I've been noticing this issue with many smartphones lately, I've been looking at smartphone camera reviews a bunch and none of them look particularly good.

Re: iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Post by brokencode »

saurik wrote: post #4
iLoveOncall wrote: post #2

Quite impressive when they shot at 48MP, but the pictures taken at 12MP just look like your bad, few generations old, non-pro iPhone photo. As a very amateur photograph that doesn't want to carry his DSLR all the time I considered getting it for the 48MP but after reading the review and seeing what would be most of the pictures I would take (the 12MP ones), it's a hard pass.

Yeah... I love my iPhone XS Max, partly because it has 2x telephoto--not 2.5x, not 3x or 4x of all the ridiculous things: just a good 2x--and I essentially use that 2x telephoto lens every chance I can. They finally have come up with an iPhone that has brought back 2x telephoto... but as a digital simulation from 1x and thereby only at 12MP, and so it isn't fundamentally different than my existing phone :/. (I do app…

The sensor in 2x camera on the older phones was never as nice as the main camera sensor either. It’d be interesting to see a comparison of the optical vs crop cameras for 2x to see if they were able to improve those 12MP at all.
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