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Re: Demystifying tables (cells inside; borders outside)

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Post by donkeybeer » Wed, Sep 14, 2022, 4:46 PM UTC

et-al wrote: post #4

lakesare wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds interesting, please link me to those guidelines if you stumble upon them!

Data Looks Better Naked: Clear Off the Table - https://www.darkhorseanalytics.com/blog/clear-off-the-table

The "improved" bar chart looks atrocious. If these are the articles modern designers are reading, its no wonder the state of design is what it is now.

Re: Demystifying tables (cells inside; borders outside)

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Post by bazoom42 » Wed, Sep 14, 2022, 9:28 PM UTC

htrwaway73 wrote: post #13

Seems like modern web developers don't use tables as much as they should. I blame the "missing generation" for this. Tables used for layout was considered so bad, that many stopped using tables for tabular data. To explain more, consider this evolution of tables based for layout 1. Early 90s/2000s: Tables used for layout as no good alternatives were available 2. The "popular" kids hated tables for layout and tried to…

The css alternative to was display:table which have existed for ages.

Re: Demystifying tables (cells inside; borders outside)

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Post by yamtaddle » Wed, Sep 14, 2022, 10:06 PM UTC

htrwaway73 wrote: post #13

Seems like modern web developers don't use tables as much as they should. I blame the "missing generation" for this. Tables used for layout was considered so bad, that many stopped using tables for tabular data. To explain more, consider this evolution of tables based for layout 1. Early 90s/2000s: Tables used for layout as no good alternatives were available 2. The "popular" kids hated tables for layout and tried to…

> 2. The "popular" kids hated tables for layout and tried to use floats etc. A 3 column layout using floats was considered "the holy grail", because it was so hard to get it to work. Most developers continued using tables until Bootstrap and other frameworks managed to take some of the pain away

Ha ha ha! Yeah, in hindsight I should have skipped this "right way" bandwagon and stuck with tables until this phase was over. I wasted a lot more time screwing around with "float" than I did fixing up table layouts. Even if it would have made me significantly less cool.