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Our five failed YC applications and one successful one

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Re: Our five failed YC applications and one successful one

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Congratualtions on your temerity! I looked at relate.so, and I already use a CRM that does everything listed on your website. What are the new features that relate provides compared to other CRMs?

What CRM do you use and what features are important. So many different crms out there.

Re: Our five failed YC applications and one successful one

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I work at Notion. I advise you to avoid the .so TLD - there’s a lot of institutional bias against Somalia’s TLD, like blanket blocks in many corporate firewalls. This problem will be worse if you serve public user-generated content from that TLD because the chain of communication from you to SomaliNIC might have a bunch of unknown third party intermediaries where an abuse report can get lost. Today Notion is large &…

I would avoid all of the two-letter domain names. I suffered 8 hours of excruciating downtime back in 2012 when the .st nic went down: https://github.com/stickfigure/blog/wiki/Beware-cutesy-two-l... I learned my lesson, I'll take the .com every time, even if I have to get creative with the name.

.ai and .io are hot commodities, though, and I've never once had problems with either.

Looking at the ample existential evidence, both startups and VCs love these two TLDs.

Re: Our five failed YC applications and one successful one

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Congratulations!

I've been thinking about this a bit, even for a company as renowned as YC, I don't like how the power balance is, and the sort of "we made it!" vibe as if you finally impressed some diety enough to grace you with good fortune. I see the same kind of posts (oddly) about people who tried n times to get a job at google and finally they "made it". Like what are we doing?

I think that once an institution has this kind of getting in as the goal, rather than the actual hard work of making an objectively successful company, incentive structures get all screwed up. This is in no way specific to YC, the same happens in universities, in investment banking, whatever. But it signals the beginning of a hollowing out where the credential is everything and what underlies it doesn't matter. There are definitely areas where the culture is skewed very much in this direction, and it isn't somewhere I'd want to be

Re: Our five failed YC applications and one successful one

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This is obviously based on anecdata, take it with a healthy helping of salt, but from what I've heard from a bunch of founder friends who have applied to YC with varying results, I get the sense that if you want to get in, you might be better off applying before you even start working on your startup. Once you actually start, the bar for getting in seems to get much higher, because there's suddenly a lot more concret…

YC does offer a free version of their program open to anyone called Startup School (https://www.startupschool.org) that can be a good way to gain validation and judge interest. Applying to YC seems to be best for idea staged founders with impressive resumes and people skills or startups that have already gained some traction. If you are in the "Trough of Sorrow" stage as Paul Graham described it, then I'm not sure where you really turn for help.

Re: Our five failed YC applications and one successful one

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This is obviously based on anecdata, take it with a healthy helping of salt, but from what I've heard from a bunch of founder friends who have applied to YC with varying results, I get the sense that if you want to get in, you might be better off applying before you even start working on your startup. Once you actually start, the bar for getting in seems to get much higher, because there's suddenly a lot more concret…

The show Silicon Valley had a great bit that mirrors this advice (on why you don't want revenue): https://youtu.be/BzAdXyPYKQo

Re: Our five failed YC applications and one successful one

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Congratualtions on your temerity! I looked at relate.so, and I already use a CRM that does everything listed on your website. What are the new features that relate provides compared to other CRMs?

I think you mean tenacity...

No. I meant temerity as in excessive confidence.

Re: Our five failed YC applications and one successful one

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This story just really doesn't read like the triumph of will it was meant to be...

My takeaway from this is that the founders wanted to get into YC. The business doesn't matter, they just wanted to be in YC.

The business morphed around what they thought would get into YC, not what would actually make a good business. I have a ton of respect for YCombinator, but they are not all knowing oracles who get it right 100% of the time. The fact that the immediate response to each rejection was "pivot" I think speaks volumes to the founder's goals here.

Re: Our five failed YC applications and one successful one

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This story just really doesn't read like the triumph of will it was meant to be... My takeaway from this is that the founders wanted to get into YC. The business doesn't matter, they just wanted to be in YC. The business morphed around what they thought would get into YC, not what would actually make a good business. I have a ton of respect for YCombinator, but they are not all knowing oracles who get it right 100% o…

> The fact that the immediate response to each rejection was "pivot" I think speaks volumes to the founder's goals here

I would go so far as to say this is validation that YC made the right decision in rejecting them. If even the founder’s dons believe in their own idea, why should YC?

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