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Re: Tell HN: Otter.ai bot recording meetings without consent

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Post by tlb »

cortesoft wrote: post #17
tlb wrote: post #3

Tangential, but I often wish I had screenshots to prove I'd opted in, or out, or otherwise done the right thing. It shouldn't be too expensive to record and index the screen whenever I'm doing something important online and keep it for a week.

Would a screenshot really prove anything, though? It would be trivial to modify

If it comes down to an I-said/they-said about whether I checked some box, then:

- if it's my memory against their database, I'd probably lose.

- if it's my video capture against their database, it could go either way.

- if it's me and several others' videos against their database, we'd likely win.

But besides the win-lose proposition, it'd be worth something to me to be confident whether I was right or not.

Re: Tell HN: Otter.ai bot recording meetings without consent

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Post by bombcar »

The big names provide recording and transcription now - Zoom has it, Teams has it (Teams apparently does it realtime and live and it's not bad, great for the deaf!).

I suppose those are part of paid plans, and they trigger the "your shit is being recorded, dude." warnings.

Re: Tell HN: Otter.ai bot recording meetings without consent

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Post by KingOfCoders »

cortesoft wrote: post #17
tlb wrote: post #3

Tangential, but I often wish I had screenshots to prove I'd opted in, or out, or otherwise done the right thing. It shouldn't be too expensive to record and index the screen whenever I'm doing something important online and keep it for a week.

Would a screenshot really prove anything, though? It would be trivial to modify

When working a large enterprise, legal asked technology if we could create and store a screenshot of every email going out for evidence in court.

Re: Tell HN: Otter.ai bot recording meetings without consent

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Post by dleslie »

bombcar wrote: post #23

The big names provide recording and transcription now - Zoom has it, Teams has it (Teams apparently does it realtime and live and it's not bad, great for the deaf!). I suppose those are part of paid plans, and they trigger the "your shit is being recorded, dude." warnings.

Slack even has it.

Re: Tell HN: Otter.ai bot recording meetings without consent

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Post by turtleman1338 »

xyos wrote: post #15

I just deleted my account because of that, also they share conversations with everyone in the meeting by DEFAULT, it wasn't nice receiving a message from a co-worker telling me that he received an email with the transcription it generated.

If some of the participants are located in the EU this is a GDPR violation.

Re: Tell HN: Otter.ai bot recording meetings without consent

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Post by mynameisvlad »

tlb wrote: post #21
cortesoft wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would a screenshot really prove anything, though? It would be trivial to modify

If it comes down to an I-said/they-said about whether I checked some box, then: - if it's my memory against their database, I'd probably lose. - if it's my video capture against their database, it could go either way. - if it's me and several others' videos against their database, we'd likely win. But besides the win-lose proposition, it'd be worth something to me to be confident whether I was right or not.

But who are you trying to convince?

If it's them, they can just say "ok so what" to your footage, it existing or not or coming from multiple people or not is not entirely relevant, as a company they can choose to use it or throw it away.

If it's everyone else, why? What benefit does it get you to have others know you're right? You're still in the same position, with your choice discarded.

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