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Re: Private Jets to Ibiza, Paris Surge as Rich Evade Travel Chaos

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Post by ohgodplsno » Mon, Sep 05, 2022, 10:27 AM UTC

pydry wrote: post #4

ohgodplsno wrote: post #3

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If it gets to that point they will start bankrolling far right militias. They'll bring them into the mainstream with slick propaganda, decent salaries and support from the middle-of-the-road media (which they own). Think Proud Boys, but made respectable, the backing of a few senators and armed with top of the line hardware. This is essentially what happened in Ukraine.

>They will start

They already have. US Billionaires are bankrolling white supremacists (https://www.exposedbycmd.org/2022/05/24/right-wing-families-...), Ukrainian billionaire Igor Kolomoisky started their own PMCs to get their oil (while fighting against Russia, sure, but it's still a PMC at the whim of a single man), Thiel and a whole bunch of SV rich kids are building post-apocalyptic shelters with their own, private security forces.

Anyone downvoting you is a fool. Billionaires are ready for war.

Re: Private Jets to Ibiza, Paris Surge as Rich Evade Travel Chaos

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Post by jackmott » Mon, Sep 05, 2022, 10:28 AM UTC

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #7

ohgodplsno wrote: post #3

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> therefore _extremely_ vulnerable to physical violence. Because this is going to be the only outcome if they keep this up This is an immature reaction. We’re talking about Europe, not sub-Saharan Africa. Those same planes would have the wealthy safely out of harm’s way, likely with a good portion of their capital, while the idiots who threw away their peace are left to squabble over remains.

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Re: Private Jets to Ibiza, Paris Surge as Rich Evade Travel Chaos

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Post by luckylion » Mon, Sep 05, 2022, 10:28 AM UTC

mckirk wrote: post #14

ohgodplsno wrote: post #3

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Ultimately it's a game theoretic problem though, isn't it? Your own personal impact on energy consumption and greenhouse gas emissions is negligible, even if you are jetting around in your private jet. Therefore it only matters what all the people 'similar to you' are doing in aggregate, and your decision should be based on that: 'What impact would my decision here have, if the people in similar situations all acted…

I have no numbers to back this up, but intuitively I'd put my money on 30m Wifi-Routers in France running a third of the year while nobody is home not having a larger impact than the 270 private jets being used.

Re: Private Jets to Ibiza, Paris Surge as Rich Evade Travel Chaos

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Post by yodsanklai » Mon, Sep 05, 2022, 10:29 AM UTC

wesleywt wrote: post #6

Imagine having all the money in the world to afford a private jet. And you choose to go to Ibiza.

We're social animals: for a lot of these guys, the point of having money is to display it.

Re: Private Jets to Ibiza, Paris Surge as Rich Evade Travel Chaos

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Post by durnygbur » Mon, Sep 05, 2022, 10:30 AM UTC

wesleywt wrote: post #6

Imagine having all the money in the world to afford a private jet. And you choose to go to Ibiza.

There they basically can have all forms of sex with any human they desire, free of charge. Compare this with GBP 200 per hour in London...

Re: Private Jets to Ibiza, Paris Surge as Rich Evade Travel Chaos

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Post by durnygbur » Mon, Sep 05, 2022, 10:30 AM UTC

rmnclmnt wrote: post #8

Let the rich spend their money! They had an extremely hard time two years in a row buying at 0.5% interest and speculating on the boom of the housing market, they need to relax and enjoy now!

The money will trickle down just any time soon...

Re: Private Jets to Ibiza, Paris Surge as Rich Evade Travel Chaos

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Post by durnygbur » Mon, Sep 05, 2022, 10:32 AM UTC

anovikov wrote: post #18

I can't see what's wrong with it. It's essentially the only sensible way in which the rich are clearly different from the middle class these days. If we remove this, what will be left of being rich?

The're still immune to most laws and taxes... then they'd be gods without wings.

Re: Private Jets to Ibiza, Paris Surge as Rich Evade Travel Chaos

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Post by newaccount2021 » Mon, Sep 05, 2022, 10:34 AM UTC

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Re: Private Jets to Ibiza, Paris Surge as Rich Evade Travel Chaos

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Post by em500 » Mon, Sep 05, 2022, 10:35 AM UTC

anovikov wrote: post #18

I can't see what's wrong with it. It's essentially the only sensible way in which the rich are clearly different from the middle class these days. If we remove this, what will be left of being rich?

Not sure if this is mean ironically, but I honestly don't see what's wrong with it either. Highlighting the consumption choices of the very wealthy mostly come off as lazy outrage bait to me. If society decided their wealth was gained in some illicit way, that surely is the issue to be addressed, not wether they spend it on flights, yachts or mansions.

Re: Private Jets to Ibiza, Paris Surge as Rich Evade Travel Chaos

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Post by newaccount2021 » Mon, Sep 05, 2022, 10:38 AM UTC

pydry wrote: post #4

ohgodplsno wrote: post #3

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If it gets to that point they will start bankrolling far right militias. They'll bring them into the mainstream with slick propaganda, decent salaries and support from the middle-of-the-road media (which they own). Think Proud Boys, but made respectable, the backing of a few senators and armed with top of the line hardware. This is essentially what happened in Ukraine.

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