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Don't ignore the janitor

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Re: Don't ignore the janitor

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post #18

I always try to talk to everyone but I'm not sure its the right thing to do. The guy who talks the most is a manager who is worth tens of millions but talks and laughs with the Janitor, its nice but you know he'll never get invited around for dinner which makes it a bit fake to me.

Look at it this way, if you’re sincere, you’re acknowledging the person matters to you. You don’t need everyone you talk to be your friend.

Re: Don't ignore the janitor

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post #18

I always try to talk to everyone but I'm not sure its the right thing to do. The guy who talks the most is a manager who is worth tens of millions but talks and laughs with the Janitor, its nice but you know he'll never get invited around for dinner which makes it a bit fake to me.

idk, that makes it seem more real. there shouldn't be a requirement of being "friends" just to have conversations with people.

Re: Don't ignore the janitor

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I ignore the janitor because of the obvious wealth disparity between us. He works just as hard as me but is doing a job nobody likes and is paid less for it. It's completely unfair. And when I just see the janitor it's all I think about. This article is like, be nice to the people you step on. Yeah. I don't disagree with that sentiment.

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Re: Don't ignore the janitor

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Further, try to abide by their requests. If they want the trash can by the door to your office or cubicle on Thursday evening, move the damn trashcan to the door. They have 100 to empty; it's a trivial task for you. We can get wound up in ourselves and forget to hold a door, or avoid spilling crumbs on our carpet, or log out of our workstation, or use a different hallway when the floor is being waxed, or to move the…

> Further, try to abide by their requests. If they want the trash can by the door to your office or cubicle on Thursday evening, move the damn trashcan to the door. Better yet, take your damn trashcan out to the damn dumpster your own damn self. Then we can save some damn money and fire the damn janitor. > They have 100 to empty; it's a trivial task for you. It's a trivial part of their job. They're getting paid for…

In Japanese schools, the kids are the ones doing the cleaning. Not just taking out the trash, but cleaning the blackboards, mopping the floor, tidying up the desks, cleaning the bathrooms, etc.

The reasoning isn't to save money, however. It is precisely to teach them there's no such thing as work that is beneath them.

Re: Don't ignore the janitor

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My father was an elementary school janitor, so I have a different perspective than some. Something I've repeated often: "My dad worked for a living. I just play with computers." Of course, in most offices in my part of the country, and I suspect in many other areas, is that the janitors are often Hispanic, with language being a common barrier. I wouldn't want to speculation about their immigration status, but knowing…

The true test of character is how you treat someone who can't possibly do anything for you (anything big , I mean, not bringing your food). As for the language barrier: a smile is pretty universal.

There was a quip about an actor selecting an agent on the basis of how the agent treated food service employees, for the same reason.

It doesn't take much effort to be respectful and decent, regardless of whether someone has something you want.

Re: Don't ignore the janitor

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some custodians like to shoot the shit. others do not. same with lobby staff.

when they do i've found that it's worth listening, they sometimes have very interesting things to say.

same used to go for nyc cab drivers, although it's a bit different in the uber era. i have a book sitting on my shelf that was written (and self promoted) by a cab driver.

Re: Don't ignore the janitor

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Feels like this quote fits perfectly into this context:

“I’ve learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel.”

(Attributed to Maya Angelou)

It's one of those things so obvious once you know. Not like I was anywhere near a total jerk beforehand, but it changed how I approached lots of different interactions.

Re: Don't ignore the janitor

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I cannot stand it when people ignore (or even worse, are hostile to) custodial staff.

If anyone ever thinks taking out the trash is an unimportant job, try living without rubbish collection for a week. Suddenly it will become very important!

Show some appreciation for these people doing a very laborious and repetitive job for minimal pay, often outside regular business hours, and so probably cuts into their family time.

Re: Don't ignore the janitor

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Further, try to abide by their requests. If they want the trash can by the door to your office or cubicle on Thursday evening, move the damn trashcan to the door. Better yet, take your damn trashcan out to the damn dumpster your own damn self. Then we can save some damn money and fire the damn janitor. > They have 100 to empty; it's a trivial task for you. It's a trivial part of their job. They're getting paid for…

In Japanese schools, the kids are the ones doing the cleaning. Not just taking out the trash, but cleaning the blackboards, mopping the floor, tidying up the desks, cleaning the bathrooms, etc. The reasoning isn't to save money, however. It is precisely to teach them there's no such thing as work that is beneath them.

Probably makes them respect the space more when they are responsible for keeping it clean.
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