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The main catch is DDR5 being expensive and compatability issues with four DIMMS[0]/ teething issues.
(Personally, I wish AMD released a 5900X/ 5950X with 3D V-Cache. The 5800X3D is nice, but I also need cores.)
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So for a similar launch price you get >2x the performance, almost identical pcie bandwidth (4x28) and faster memory (less of it though). Seems pretty great to me?
8x DDR4-2666 -> 2x DDR5-5600 is half the memory throughput too. That was the first thing that made my head scratch; having much bigger cores & still lots of PCIe throughput, but way less memory bandwidth. That said, 8x DDR4-2666 also scaled up to 64c chips in Naples, this isn't unreasonable.
One would imagine that EPYC based on Zen 4c would have the memory throughput you crave, though I wouldn't hold your breath for $700 pricing. It's still hard to say how committed AMD is to the middle ground of HEDT.
https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-threadripper-p...
https://www.servethehome.com/amd-ryzen-threadripper-pro-5995...
I'm impressesed by the initial performance numbers, the price, PCIe 5.0, Having 8 lanes to the PCH instead of 4, 10gbe on most motherboards. It's good that AMD is continueing the trend where users don't have to upgrade their motherboards every generation. The main catch is DDR5 being expensive and compatability issues with four DIMMS[0]/ teething issues. (Personally, I wish AMD released a 5900X/ 5950X with 3D V-Cache…
I'm impressesed by the initial performance numbers, the price, PCIe 5.0, Having 8 lanes to the PCH instead of 4, 10gbe on most motherboards. It's good that AMD is continueing the trend where users don't have to upgrade their motherboards every generation. The main catch is DDR5 being expensive and compatability issues with four DIMMS[0]/ teething issues. (Personally, I wish AMD released a 5900X/ 5950X with 3D V-Cache…
I'm impressesed by the initial performance numbers, the price, PCIe 5.0, Having 8 lanes to the PCH instead of 4, 10gbe on most motherboards. It's good that AMD is continueing the trend where users don't have to upgrade their motherboards every generation. The main catch is DDR5 being expensive and compatability issues with four DIMMS[0]/ teething issues. (Personally, I wish AMD released a 5900X/ 5950X with 3D V-Cache…
Isn't this generation on a new AM5 socket, won't users need to upgrade their motherboards this generation
I'm impressesed by the initial performance numbers, the price, PCIe 5.0, Having 8 lanes to the PCH instead of 4, 10gbe on most motherboards. It's good that AMD is continueing the trend where users don't have to upgrade their motherboards every generation. The main catch is DDR5 being expensive and compatability issues with four DIMMS[0]/ teething issues. (Personally, I wish AMD released a 5900X/ 5950X with 3D V-Cache…
Price isn't especially impressive. Performance is good though.
Given the platform costs, the lowend 7600X doens't make sense. AMD does some weird product placing...
I didn't expect to see them hitting 5.8Ghz [stock], wow!
Die Area of only 3.84mm2 for Core + L2. This is a similar to Apple A14/A15. On TSMC N5 although they are likely different variant, optimising for clockspeed rather than Low Power. 13% increase in IPC, and additional clock speed increase as well from N5. The server variant Zen4C with 128 Core per socket should compete fairly well with Ampere ARM variant. I just hope AMD is a little more ambitious than they were and bo…
I doubt they've been conservative. AMD has less than $6bn cash on hand. They're prepaying for stuff what they can afford, which they've said in statements totals $300-400MM at any given time. Apple can wire $6bn to TSMC tomorrow if they need to. AMD just can't play in that game.
TSMC demanding tighter payment terms and more up front to reserve capacity is really not good for AMD.
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Price isn't especially impressive. Performance is good though.
It could have gone up (I think the EU/ UK will increase, we'll see). Still haven't heard anything on motherboard pricing (those motherboards with 20 powerstages aren't going to be cheap!). Given the platform costs, the lowend 7600X doens't make sense. AMD does some weird product placing... I didn't expect to see them hitting 5.8Ghz [stock], wow!