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The UK's downturn is a warning for Europe

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Re: The UK's downturn is a warning for Europe

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What I find most strange about it is the calmness in UK media and politics. It's really like that meme with the dog in a burning room saying "it's fine".

Cost of living crippling people? NHS in emergency mode at it's quietest period? Soaring inflation? Nah, business as usual. Let's pass some laws about imitation and cancel culture. Oh and look at the Queen, isn't she marvellous? Carry on.

Re: The UK's downturn is a warning for Europe

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I've never submitted a political story commenting on others that have seems fair enough > This is in bad faith. Please don't slander a story posted presumably in good faith. this seems way out of line (and deeply ironic) maybe you can point out where I slandered something?

You have multiple comments discussing economics, politics of technology, and politics generally. Just look.. they are there. You are insinuating that this story about politics and economics should not be treated in good faith because the poster is tainted in some way via linking to their comment history. Your post on the other poster's comments seems in bad faith imo. Plus, I find "negative vibe man" comments are not…

> You are insinuating that this story about politics and economics should not be treated in good faith because the poster is tainted in some way via linking to their comment history.

you really don't you see the irony here?

> Plus, I find "negative vibe man" comments are not ideal.

well the mods seemed to downweight the story, then the community flagged it (killing it all together)

it seems if anyone's out of place here it's you, not me

(tories bad!)

Re: The UK's downturn is a warning for Europe

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You have multiple comments discussing economics, politics of technology, and politics generally. Just look.. they are there. You are insinuating that this story about politics and economics should not be treated in good faith because the poster is tainted in some way via linking to their comment history. Your post on the other poster's comments seems in bad faith imo. Plus, I find "negative vibe man" comments are not…

> You are insinuating that this story about politics and economics should not be treated in good faith because the poster is tainted in some way via linking to their comment history. you really don't you see the irony here? > Plus, I find "negative vibe man" comments are not ideal. well the mods seemed to downweight the story, then the community flagged it (killing it all together) it seems if anyone's out of place h…

> you really don't you see the irony here?

You contradicted your own terms of debate trying to taint a commenter as "political" while having a history of commenting on similar items. I pointed that out as not consistent using your comments as evidence. Mildly ironic but no.

> it seems if anyone's out of place here it's you, not me

Negative vibe on isle five officer!! The very idea that technology is not adjacent to economics, politics, and demographics is silly. If the forum mods don't think that then boo!

Re: The UK's downturn is a warning for Europe

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> You are insinuating that this story about politics and economics should not be treated in good faith because the poster is tainted in some way via linking to their comment history. you really don't you see the irony here? > Plus, I find "negative vibe man" comments are not ideal. well the mods seemed to downweight the story, then the community flagged it (killing it all together) it seems if anyone's out of place h…

> you really don't you see the irony here? You contradicted your own terms of debate trying to taint a commenter as "political" while having a history of commenting on similar items. I pointed that out as not consistent using your comments as evidence. Mildly ironic but no. > it seems if anyone's out of place here it's you, not me Negative vibe on isle five officer!! The very idea that technology is not adjacent to e…

> The very idea that technology is not adjacent to economics, politics, and demographics is silly.

maybe time to find another website to post your vaulted insights on then

Re: The UK's downturn is a warning for Europe

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> you really don't you see the irony here? You contradicted your own terms of debate trying to taint a commenter as "political" while having a history of commenting on similar items. I pointed that out as not consistent using your comments as evidence. Mildly ironic but no. > it seems if anyone's out of place here it's you, not me Negative vibe on isle five officer!! The very idea that technology is not adjacent to e…

> The very idea that technology is not adjacent to economics, politics, and demographics is silly. maybe time to find another website to post your vaulted insights on then

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Re: The UK's downturn is a warning for Europe

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> you really don't you see the irony here? You contradicted your own terms of debate trying to taint a commenter as "political" while having a history of commenting on similar items. I pointed that out as not consistent using your comments as evidence. Mildly ironic but no. > it seems if anyone's out of place here it's you, not me Negative vibe on isle five officer!! The very idea that technology is not adjacent to e…

> The very idea that technology is not adjacent to economics, politics, and demographics is silly. maybe time to find another website to post your vaulted insights on then

>maybe time to find another website to post your vaulted insights on then

You will continue to intermittently post about politics and economics on here which judging by your comment history you do. I will also. Goodbye.

Re: The UK's downturn is a warning for Europe

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UK voted to leave EU, defacto they voted to become enclave of USA. American influence from Trumps Steve Bannons Cambridge analytica THRU american corporation Facebook led to brexit. so it is what some americans wanted, so now they have it, so go complain to these people britain.

Except the UK has a pending, and serious, issue with the Irish border, which is apparently peeving off Irish American voters. Biden was firing warning shots about this. But so far there seems no practical compromise that works for UK, Ireland and the EU.

US and EU smelling blood and quite happy to exasurbate conflict inside UK for cynical reasons

Re: The UK's downturn is a warning for Europe

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poster seems to have... an attachment to posting UK political stories of a particular slant https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=cirrus-clouds

You can always email dang (bottom of the page) if you suspect someone is using HN for ideological battle.

Re: The UK's downturn is a warning for Europe

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> The very idea that technology is not adjacent to economics, politics, and demographics is silly. maybe time to find another website to post your vaulted insights on then

>maybe time to find another website to post your vaulted insights on then You will continue to intermittently post about politics and economics on here which judging by your comment history you do. I will also. Goodbye.

>maybe time to find another website to post your vaulted insights on then

P.S. how is this a vaulted idea or not relevant to "tech"? We are discussing a country that swims in its own pooh because the government (de-facto) controlled companies turned off or removed sensors at the beaches, misreported data, and couldn't buy chemicals at adequate levels because of Brexit. Seems like almost ALL of the issues described in the post are at the nexus of economics/politics and technology.

Re: The UK's downturn is a warning for Europe

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Why is this flagged? It's an editorial, and it certainly has a slant, but it seems to be neither lying nor dissembling. I, for one, had no knowledge of the strikes going on in the UK, and I'm rather more plugged into politics than most.

"Off-Topic: Most stories about politics [...] unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. [...] If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Granted this is arguable in this case, but that's why I'd guess it was flagged.

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