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Re: YaCy – your own search engine

#21

Post by bityard »

mtlynch wrote: post #19

I love the idea of this, but I tried to spin up my own instance and was immediately overwhelmed by the million little knobs and settings for it. It seems like a lot of fun if you understand all the tuning, but I feel like the current state alienates most users who want to use it in simple scenarios.

There are lots of settings because it's very powerful software. I don't understand the part about being overwhelmed... surely the developers have chosen sane defaults for most things and you can just ignore the ones you don't understand?

Re: YaCy – your own search engine

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Post by mimimi31 »

alxjsn wrote: post #20

If you haven't heard of Brave Goggles ( https://github.com/brave/goggles-quickstart ) I highly recommend checking it out. Just being able to create the search index is a massive task, so being able to apply rules server-side to their "expanded recall set" will give you what most people building search engines want, which is to control the algorithm. We weren't able to do that until now since applying rules client-sid…

Kagi (https://kagi.com) has very similar tools with their "Lenses" and customizable prioritization of specific domains.

Re: YaCy – your own search engine

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Post by bityard »

It's interesting that this uses a distributed P2P index. That's a very good idea and one of the things that has held me back from even thinking about trying to build my own tech-focused search engine.

One thing I was hoping to see in the FAQ was how they prevent rogue nodes from inserting spam or other kinds of mischief into the public index.

Re: YaCy – your own search engine

#24

Post by skybrian »

alxjsn wrote: post #20

If you haven't heard of Brave Goggles ( https://github.com/brave/goggles-quickstart ) I highly recommend checking it out. Just being able to create the search index is a massive task, so being able to apply rules server-side to their "expanded recall set" will give you what most people building search engines want, which is to control the algorithm. We weren't able to do that until now since applying rules client-sid…

Seems like you're burying the lead a bit since your "Basic Usage" involves running some Docker instance for some reason and you don't need to do that just to try it out?

It looks like Goggles are just text files hosted on GitHub or GitLab and you can try them out with Brave's search engine without installing anything. Some to try:

https://search.brave.com/goggles/discover

The netsec Goggle is here:

https://search.brave.com/goggles?goggles_id=https://github.c...

Re: YaCy – your own search engine

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Post by Tijdreiziger »

usefulcat wrote: post #16
Tijdreiziger wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Off-topic, but how do you like Synology? I'm familiar with one of their units for work, but I'm looking into a new NAS for my home, and I'm trying to decide between Synology or building my own and putting Nextcloud on it.

I used a small Synology NAS from 2012-2019, at which point I replaced it with small linux box because I wanted ZFS. Inability to support ZFS was really the only reason I replaced it; it was still working fine.

What software are you running, and how much time do you spend on maintenance?

Re: YaCy – your own search engine

#26

Post by wccrawford »

Tijdreiziger wrote: post #10
rasulkireev wrote: post #2

Recently installed YaCy on my Synology via docker image the provide. Already saved about 10Gb of content interesting to me. Now, I have a personal Search Engine. Awesome.

Off-topic, but how do you like Synology? I'm familiar with one of their units for work, but I'm looking into a new NAS for my home, and I'm trying to decide between Synology or building my own and putting Nextcloud on it.

Also not OP. I've got a Synology 918+ that I've used for years, and as a file store, I'm quite pleased.

I've tried running apps on it, and the ones that are available are decent, but I pretty quickly got to where I needed to SSH in to make certain things happen, and that felt weird for an appliance like this. I added Docker and ran a bunch of stuff on that, and that was kind of a pain. They don't make it easy to update the images and the community's solution is to SSH in and install watchtower to do it.

I'm now just using it for network file storage and running all those services on a Linux box instead.

I thought about just putting the drives in the Linux box, but I did some network testing and the NAS was faster, and it provides a lot of storage-related niceties, so I'm keeping it in the mix. For instance, I recently decided to upgrade the drives to faster, larger ones, and it's been pretty easy.

Re: YaCy – your own search engine

#27

Post by mtlynch »

bityard wrote: post #21
mtlynch wrote: post #19

I love the idea of this, but I tried to spin up my own instance and was immediately overwhelmed by the million little knobs and settings for it. It seems like a lot of fun if you understand all the tuning, but I feel like the current state alienates most users who want to use it in simple scenarios.

There are lots of settings because it's very powerful software. I don't understand the part about being overwhelmed... surely the developers have chosen sane defaults for most things and you can just ignore the ones you don't understand?

That wasn't my experience. YaCy didn't do what I wanted out of the box, so I was just left with 100+ settings that I didn't know how to adjust to get to a desired state.

Re: YaCy – your own search engine

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Post by upupandup »

alxjsn wrote: post #20

If you haven't heard of Brave Goggles ( https://github.com/brave/goggles-quickstart ) I highly recommend checking it out. Just being able to create the search index is a massive task, so being able to apply rules server-side to their "expanded recall set" will give you what most people building search engines want, which is to control the algorithm. We weren't able to do that until now since applying rules client-sid…

I see Brave. I close tab. I don't trust them or anybody that pushes their offerings which are just crypto ponzi schemes.

Re: YaCy – your own search engine

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Post by chrisweekly »

rasulkireev wrote: post #15
Tijdreiziger wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Off-topic, but how do you like Synology? I'm familiar with one of their units for work, but I'm looking into a new NAS for my home, and I'm trying to decide between Synology or building my own and putting Nextcloud on it.

Love it, have 0 complaints! I got DS220+

Happy w my DS-220+ too

Re: YaCy – your own search engine

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Post by hunterb123 »

upupandup wrote: post #28
alxjsn wrote: post #20

If you haven't heard of Brave Goggles ( https://github.com/brave/goggles-quickstart ) I highly recommend checking it out. Just being able to create the search index is a massive task, so being able to apply rules server-side to their "expanded recall set" will give you what most people building search engines want, which is to control the algorithm. We weren't able to do that until now since applying rules client-sid…

I see Brave. I close tab. I don't trust them or anybody that pushes their offerings which are just crypto ponzi schemes.

The crypto stuff is disabled by default, get a new talking point.
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