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Guidance to make federally funded research freely available without delay

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Re: Guidance to make federally funded research freely available without delay

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post #11

"All agencies will fully implement updated policies, including ending the optional 12-month embargo, no later than December 31, 2025." Why does this need a 3 year transition period? Six months would be plenty.

Perhaps they'd like to see if geopoliticial conflicts due to the uncertainty of the impending doom that is climate change make it unnecessary.

Imagine doing all that work for nothing, as there was societal collapse just around the corner!

Re: Guidance to make federally funded research freely available without delay

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post #10

Seems like a good thing. Any downsides to this? Any low hanging fruit it misses in making research more open access?

the publication fees (paid by the authors) seem to be considerably higher

Elsevier pockets a 30+ percent profit margin.[1] Nothing besides market power forces them to push this to the authors.

[1] https://www.relx.com/~/media/Files/R/RELX-Group/documents/re... (page 23)

Re: Guidance to make federally funded research freely available without delay

#23
This is good news. Academic publishers are parasites and anything that reduces their stranglehold on academic knowledge is good. That said, parasites are, if nothing else, resilient.

So, there's a few issues that I'm concerned about. First, it's not clear to me that university libraries will be able to drop their subscriptions to these journals based on this decision. The vast majority of research receives some federal funding, but there will still be some subset of articles that are funded through private research grants and will still sit behind a paywall. Journal subscriptions are a huge drag on library budgets, so freeing that money up would be immensely beneficial. Second, I can see the journals reacting to this by going full open access, but charging massive "fees" to publish. Right now Nature charges >$10k to publish open access, and I'd expect them to ratchet that up as it becomes their primary vector to siphon tax payer money into their own pockets. This seems to be the playbook based on the European "Plan S" push for open access.

Re: Guidance to make federally funded research freely available without delay

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post #11

"All agencies will fully implement updated policies, including ending the optional 12-month embargo, no later than December 31, 2025." Why does this need a 3 year transition period? Six months would be plenty.

> Why does this need a 3 year transition period? Six months would be plenty. For the same reason aircraft carriers need five miles to stop - it’s a really big ship and there’s an extraordinary amount of inertia to be overcome.

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Re: Guidance to make federally funded research freely available without delay

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why does this need a 3 year transition period? Six months would be plenty. For the same reason aircraft carriers need five miles to stop - it’s a really big ship and there’s an extraordinary amount of inertia to be overcome.

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It's the federal government, not a startup in your garage.

Re: Guidance to make federally funded research freely available without delay

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post #11

"All agencies will fully implement updated policies, including ending the optional 12-month embargo, no later than December 31, 2025." Why does this need a 3 year transition period? Six months would be plenty.

There were a lot of agreements with journals, etc.

Re: Guidance to make federally funded research freely available without delay

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post #10

Seems like a good thing. Any downsides to this? Any low hanging fruit it misses in making research more open access?

the publication fees (paid by the authors) seem to be considerably higher

My lab's gotten hit by some hefty publication fees this year - it's painful for early career researchers, but in aggregate, this is a good thing.

Re: Guidance to make federally funded research freely available without delay

#29

Seems like a good thing. Any downsides to this? Any low hanging fruit it misses in making research more open access?

Some society-level journals that are used to help support their respective societies are likely going to struggle a bit.

That doesn't mean this isn't worth doing (it is), but it's going to be a thing.

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