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Seven years later, Apple was right to kill off the 3.5mm headphone jack

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Re: Seven years later, Apple was right to kill off the 3.5mm headphone jack

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That’s a joke. 7 years later I am still picking up headphones then remembering I can’t plug them in without going to find a dongle. If there was an iPhone with a headphone jack I would buy it.

For sure. This seems to be a press agent "inspired" article. Even if you use Bluetooth headphones, why wouldn't you want the option.

Re: Seven years later, Apple was right to kill off the 3.5mm headphone jack

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Why wouldn’t the $9 lightning to 3.5mm adapter solve your problem?

They didn't have one until Apple created it. Now they should have lower fidelity audio, and/or more shit to carry around and fiddle with, and/or fail unexpectedly when least needed? You actually can't understand the consumer side of this? Or just like Apple?

> Now they should have lower fidelity audio

Like most things audiophiles say: I call bullshit.

http://soundexpert.org/articles/-/blogs/audio-quality-of-lig...

> Audio quality of Apple Lightning to 3.5mm adapter (A1749) is almost as good as in-built mobile audio solutions by Apple, though it has slightly worse df-measurements. Mostly due to the higher jitter. But if you listen music you will not hear the difference; it is too subtle to be perceived.

Re: Seven years later, Apple was right to kill off the 3.5mm headphone jack

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You cannot replace the batteries without prying them apart, and Apple by default just tells you to throw them away and buy new ones. There are rare earth minerals in the speaker drivers.

It looks like they recommend recycling them https://support.apple.com/guide/airpods/disposal-and-recycli... And use 100% recycled rare earth elements according to the tech specs https://support.apple.com/kb/SP856?viewlocale=en_US&locale=e...

That's not what they will tell you on the phone. https://youtu.be/RQqk45ps9kg?t=31

"It would cost more than it's worth to like... break it apart, to open it up, and replace the battery" (because we designed them that way)

Have you ever heard of planned obsolescence?

To your second point, the problem isn't that they come from recycled. The problem is that they won't be recycled again.

Re: Seven years later, Apple was right to kill off the 3.5mm headphone jack

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The culture of "Apple Knows Best" died years ago. People are realizing the lightening port and removing the Jack isn't innovation--it's just a cash grab.

At some point there needs to be some sympathy for consumer preferences. I'm an Apple customer due to the bloat/clunkiness of their competitors rather than an appreciation for Apple itself.

Re: Seven years later, Apple was right to kill off the 3.5mm headphone jack

#25
Wired headphones suck for 90%+ of the population. We can talk about the cost of AirPods but they are objectively better in most all situations.

I was a hold-out on the AirPods having using bluetooth headphones before and hated them but I got AirPods as a gift and almost immediately fell in love. Way easier to carry (no tangled wires, and yes, I knew how to wind them up but that wasn't always foolproof), super easy to pop in your ears for a few minutes or a few hours, and no cables to get in your way.

I lost my original AirPods (or they were stolen) and I decided to just use the wired headphones while I continued to hope they would turn up. WIthin 2 days I had an order placed for a new AirPods because wired headphones are a huge step backwards (wires get caught on things and tug at your ears when you extend too far).

I generally find audiophiles to be nearly completely full of shit when it comes to "audio quality" and while I know bluetooth doesn't allow for the highest quality possible it's well past "good enough".

Re: Seven years later, Apple was right to kill off the 3.5mm headphone jack

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According to Apple it might be. But we aren't asking any end users in the article, because screw them, right? Anything that enables the environmental irresponsibility of AirPods is only "right" from the perspective of the shareholder. Certainly not the species.

> Anything that enables the environmental irresponsibility of AirPods is only "right" from the perspective of the shareholder.

Spare me. Companies are busy dumping waste all over this planet and you want me to care about something the size of 2 grapes?

Re: Seven years later, Apple was right to kill off the 3.5mm headphone jack

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post #7

That’s a joke. 7 years later I am still picking up headphones then remembering I can’t plug them in without going to find a dongle. If there was an iPhone with a headphone jack I would buy it.

I can’t imagine having to use a cord for a headset in 2022. My AirPods switch seamlessly between my Mac, iPad, Watch and MacBook. Cords her tangled, caught in things are horrible for running etc. Not to mention that would I run and go to the gym with just my watch.

But you look like this guy.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Lobot

There’s something retro and cool about cords.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bluetool

Re: Seven years later, Apple was right to kill off the 3.5mm headphone jack

#28
Ahem. On headphones Pros: - Not bound to an insecure protocol. - Compatible with jacks a century old. - Decent headphones can cost as low as 5EUR on a convenience store and still sound better than most of BT headphones

Cons: You can't do jogging fine, but you have tiny and cheap media players with clips easily attached to the neck of your T-shirt.

Re: Seven years later, Apple was right to kill off the 3.5mm headphone jack

#29

1: I do not wish to charge my headphones. 2: I have many headphones with higher quality sound than earbuds can provide. 3: Bluetooth still kinda sucks, even after all this time. 4: Bluetooth is subject to denial of service, security concerns. 5: Apple's purpose with the decision was to increase revenue, that is all. You all are now paying $$$ for headphones with batteries, etc. onboard, and they no longer had to impl…

6: DRM control over what the user can/cannot listen to.

Re: Seven years later, Apple was right to kill off the 3.5mm headphone jack

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They didn't have one until Apple created it. Now they should have lower fidelity audio, and/or more shit to carry around and fiddle with, and/or fail unexpectedly when least needed? You actually can't understand the consumer side of this? Or just like Apple?

Do they fail frequently? I'd bet that many (most?) people would plug their headphones into the adapter and leave it until the headphones or adapter failed. Don't get me wrong, I'm not for Apple or the adapter, but I'm not convinced by the adapter hate either. I do wish I could find Bluetooth devices that didn't suck, though.

Do cheap, tiny copper cables fail frequently?

How long have you been sampling the electronics market?, heh

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