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Re: Protonmail Recommended Browsers

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Why do privacy folks recommend Brave? Isn't Brave a commercial, ad serving entity?

All I remember brave for is some crypto nonsense, and looking at wikipedia it seems they were doing some kind of suspect "content creator payments" that were opt-out and not forwarded?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_(web_browser)#Controvers...

At the face of it, it sounds like they had a "Donate to platypus" button but you'd only get the donations if you knew to sign up with them on the back end? Gross.

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Protonmail and Brave do indeed seem like a good fit. Two somewhat sketchy, very commercial outfits that market themselves as more private than the competition and that will gladly break existing standards and practices to so. They also seem to attract surprisingly similar groups of users, including a larger-than-chance overlap. Protonmail, in particular, seems to have become a sort of running joke as the e-mail provi…

Can you recommend a paid mail service which is better? I'm in a search process now, to ditch google as much as I can, and was leaning towards Proton services.

Proton is good, not sure what OP means by "sketchy". I personally also use Hey and used Fastmail before. All three are great alternatives to Google.

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Why do privacy folks recommend Brave? Isn't Brave a commercial, ad serving entity?

Don't mistake privacy folks with their marketing team. Also people force its use to increase the value of the Brave token.

In conclusion, snake oil and yet another crypto scam.

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Why do privacy folks recommend Brave? Isn't Brave a commercial, ad serving entity?

The short answer is that yes, Brave as a company does have some competing incentives which rightly should be constantly criticised, HOWEVER, Brave the browser performs well in multiple independent reviews of browser privacy. A nice one is https://privacytests.org/, though there are also some academic studies which I will link if I find.

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Why is safari/webkit not in there. It my understanding that it's the most privacy respecting browser in the area of finger printing.

Apple collects your browsing history, something which I have yet to find a good explanation for. https://apps.apple.com/zm/app/safari/id1146562112

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It's good to see Firefox on top of this list. Is Protonmail usually accessed through web clients? I only use native iOS client and MacOS Mail with the Bridge app. Somehow I would expect Protonmail users to not use the web client so much, maybe I am wrong.

You can only use a desktop app if you pay for protonmail. I suppose almost all protonmail users are free users and therefore they can only use the website.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see critics on Protonmail, but Brave is an absolut legit fully open-sourced project. Nothing Sketchy, and no the opt-in Crypto Program is also nothing sketcht.

The sketchy part is being a Chrome clone while pretending to be a "different" browser.

To create a web browser you need some kind of rendering engine. And writing rendering engine that correctly handles current HTML, JavaScript, CSS specifications is hard. On top of that you build features like bookmarks, password manager, etc. I do not have a problem with some browser using Chrome rendering engine, if they remove all the sketchy parts, like sending every url that you browse to some central database, or backing up your passwords on Google server.

So, in the end, being based on Chrome rendering engine is not a damning quality in itself.

Re: Protonmail Recommended Browsers

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you recommend a paid mail service which is better? I'm in a search process now, to ditch google as much as I can, and was leaning towards Proton services.

Proton is good, not sure what OP means by "sketchy". I personally also use Hey and used Fastmail before. All three are great alternatives to Google.

I’m slowly moving to Fastmail. I tried hey. Their app is terrible. The whole thing seems clunky.
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