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EPB launches America’s first community-wide 25 gig internet service

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Re: EPB launches America’s first community-wide 25 gig internet service

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I don't really see the point - impressed that they offered it, but how many people truly need it? I have 1G symmetric FTTH internet, the bottleneck is still the services I want to access at the other end - really makes no difference how much faster the pipe is, if the service you are using can't keep up. Will some people benefit?? sure - a handful of power users doing massive uploads and downloads for commercial purp…

Well, if cost of hardware on ISP side is fairly similar for 1G, 10G and 25Gbps, then why not offer also the fastest option just because you can?

> if the service you are using can't keep up.

Thats standard chicken and egg problem, why provide faster servers when ISPs are offering 1Gbps at most

IMO internet speed could be like electricity/power - like most people don't care how much power they can get from the grid, in the future we will have the same when it comes to the internet - it will almost always be fast enough for everything

Re: EPB launches America’s first community-wide 25 gig internet service

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I don't really see the point - impressed that they offered it, but how many people truly need it? I have 1G symmetric FTTH internet, the bottleneck is still the services I want to access at the other end - really makes no difference how much faster the pipe is, if the service you are using can't keep up. Will some people benefit?? sure - a handful of power users doing massive uploads and downloads for commercial purp…

There are places like Switzerland where you actually can get a 25Gbps residental connection for a reasonable price. The actual cost lies in your backend infrastructure and the skills you need to use it (it's all enterprise equipment at that level). Everything from the routing to the switching to the servers that you're likely running on that connection can get real expensive.

Re: EPB launches America’s first community-wide 25 gig internet service

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Wow this reads like an announcement from a different timeline (like the one that was promised when fiber was promoted in the early 2000s). 25Gb/s symmetric? In the middle of Tennessee? Meanwhile I have traffic-shaped Comcast and no fiber in sight in Silicon Valley.

I have WK&T and have symmetrical gigabit w/ 24/7 chat support in a town with a population of 300 in TN. Spectacular service, but I did sit on a waiting list and pay $1000 for installation. My bill has gone down over time (WK&T is a co-op.)

I have only ever had issues for a period of 2 months during peak times when my traffic was being routed through another ISP that I would always get ~0.2% packet loss from. WK&T helped me identify some routes that were unaffected to set up a tunnel to work around it for the few times I was affected.

Re: EPB launches America’s first community-wide 25 gig internet service

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Wow this reads like an announcement from a different timeline (like the one that was promised when fiber was promoted in the early 2000s). 25Gb/s symmetric? In the middle of Tennessee? Meanwhile I have traffic-shaped Comcast and no fiber in sight in Silicon Valley.

its weird, I live in a tiny little town with about 400 households and I now have access to 1G symmetrical fiber for about $80/month - but we (the town) had to pay for the fiber build out with increases taxes and user fees...well worth it in my case. I would have been OK with only Comcast as previously it was just 3Mb Verizon DSL for almost my entire WFH career (20+ years).

Re: EPB launches America’s first community-wide 25 gig internet service

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So weird hearing about how amazing this speed is for a convention center when I have 25Gbps at home and mainly just use it to download movies and anime from Usenet.

Where on earth and why

Literally this announcement is saying where. It’s not just the convention center, it’s the whole service region, the convention center is just first.

Re: EPB launches America’s first community-wide 25 gig internet service

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post #12

I don't really see the point - impressed that they offered it, but how many people truly need it? I have 1G symmetric FTTH internet, the bottleneck is still the services I want to access at the other end - really makes no difference how much faster the pipe is, if the service you are using can't keep up. Will some people benefit?? sure - a handful of power users doing massive uploads and downloads for commercial purp…

20 years ago you'd have said the same thing about dsl to broadband, and if everyone had that same mentality, Netflix would still be mailing dvds and not offering 4k streaming. Innovation is good.

Re: EPB launches America’s first community-wide 25 gig internet service

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

/remindme in 10 years In all seriousness, YES! File sizes are not getting smaller. If the bottleneck of data transference were my hardware, then we would live in a data utopia. Imagine the size of files for the last 20 years and you could probably do a relatively close comparison for the next 20. I would say they have future-proofed their system for a long while. I would also say that with the addition of IoT, there…

I don't disagree - in 10 years this will be different and so will my opinion - things we don't even know about will become common everyday necessities and may require those kind of speeds...but right now, I don't see it.

There's kind of a chicken & egg dynamic here. People won't experiment with futuristic high-bandwidth applications before they have high bandwidth.

Re: EPB launches America’s first community-wide 25 gig internet service

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post #12

I don't really see the point - impressed that they offered it, but how many people truly need it? I have 1G symmetric FTTH internet, the bottleneck is still the services I want to access at the other end - really makes no difference how much faster the pipe is, if the service you are using can't keep up. Will some people benefit?? sure - a handful of power users doing massive uploads and downloads for commercial purp…

That's the maximum, right? I would imagine they have plans from sub-gigabit up to 25G. I know I'd absolutely love the option of 10G for a reasonable price (thousand(s)?). Heck, I'd be overjoyed to get symmetrical 100 Mbps, and I'd gladly pay a few hundred for it. Meanwhile my Dad has 500/500 AT&T Fiber, and he pays half what I pay for 930/35 Charter Spectrum cable :(

Thousands? Why not more like $40/mo, like several cities in Europe where 10G is already offered?

Re: EPB launches America’s first community-wide 25 gig internet service

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post #12

I don't really see the point - impressed that they offered it, but how many people truly need it? I have 1G symmetric FTTH internet, the bottleneck is still the services I want to access at the other end - really makes no difference how much faster the pipe is, if the service you are using can't keep up. Will some people benefit?? sure - a handful of power users doing massive uploads and downloads for commercial purp…

> I have 1G symmetric FTTH internet, the bottleneck is still the services I want to access at the other end - really makes no difference how much faster the pipe is, if the service you are using can't keep up. I can definitely hit this with one Steam download. If any more users want to download games, they can easily compete for 1G. Netflix and other services have relatively low bitrate streams too. If I could get hi…

>>You’re used to 1G. But a lot of people are used to a lot more and a lot less.

Trust me, I am not used to it (at least not yet)- I have only had it for 5+ months - I have been WFH for more than 25 years and only had access to 3Mbs DSL before this.

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