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Google IoT Core will be discontinued on Aug. 16, 2023

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Re: Google IoT Core will be discontinued on Aug. 16, 2023

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I don't know why anyone would build anything that relies on a google offering these days. What are they going to discontinue next?

That's why I prefer to invest time and effort on AWS. I know I won't have to rewrite everything from scratch whenever Google feels like abandoning their projects.

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Re: Google IoT Core will be discontinued on Aug. 16, 2023

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Google should just go ahead and shut down their entire Cloud business. I mean, nobody in their right mind would build a business or anything substantial on top of any Google provided service, and the hobbyist market can't be that big. Just go ahead and drop out Google, and quit fucking wasting everybody's time.

Yes. They already angered the game dev community, and few believe Stadia will stay around. This angers the industrial internet-of-things community. You can get Siemens industrial equipment tied to Google IoT Core. Hopefully you don't already have it installed. Industrial controls people think in terms of decades, not months.

A Coursera class on Google IoT Core for industrial control started today. 77,000 people signed up.

Re: Google IoT Core will be discontinued on Aug. 16, 2023

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Supposedly the funding for Google Cloud will go bye-bye if they don't beat Azure by 2023. They won't axe all of Google Cloud, but I bet they'll start killing services that don't make money. (Remember: Google is an advertising company; loss-leading cloud services don't help them sell ads)

>Supposedly the funding for Google Cloud will go bye-bye if they don't beat Azure by 2023. Source on this? Also, Amazon was just an eCommerce store before AWS.

This article/rumor from 2018-ish:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21815260

Re: Google IoT Core will be discontinued on Aug. 16, 2023

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hahaa; wow. So, we were doing this sensor project; and I picked "boring" things like raspberry-pi, python scripts, wiring the GPIO with a screw-down terminal or using SDR for other off-the shelf sensors to build the network. And in one of the demos showing our very low-budget type project a reviewer said: "you should look at IoT managers like the G offering, we're using it". So, they declined to use our methods and b…

I think it’s important to “own” what makes you different.

Running your own servers isn’t that important and probably isn’t what makes you different. EC2, Azure VMs or whatever short term project Google is running for compute are all extremely comparable, and you loose very little by using them.

But if your business is owning and operating an IoT platform for your customers, you should invest in a high quality solution, not just buying the off-the-shelf tool. It may be that a provider’s offering is better than what you can do, but it better be a lot better if you use it.

The point is to invest heavily in what actually makes a difference, vertically integrate what matters, externalize what doesn’t.

Re: Google IoT Core will be discontinued on Aug. 16, 2023

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Supposedly the funding for Google Cloud will go bye-bye if they don't beat Azure by 2023. They won't axe all of Google Cloud, but I bet they'll start killing services that don't make money. (Remember: Google is an advertising company; loss-leading cloud services don't help them sell ads)

Forgive my ignorance, but from a business perspective, is Google Docs, Drive, etc. considered part of Google Cloud or is GSuite distinctly different?

They are pretty separate. It is like Azure (Google Cloud Platform) and Office365 (GSuite) for Microsoft.

Re: Google IoT Core will be discontinued on Aug. 16, 2023

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post #11

hahaa; wow. So, we were doing this sensor project; and I picked "boring" things like raspberry-pi, python scripts, wiring the GPIO with a screw-down terminal or using SDR for other off-the shelf sensors to build the network. And in one of the demos showing our very low-budget type project a reviewer said: "you should look at IoT managers like the G offering, we're using it". So, they declined to use our methods and b…

I think it’s important to “own” what makes you different. Running your own servers isn’t that important and probably isn’t what makes you different. EC2, Azure VMs or whatever short term project Google is running for compute are all extremely comparable, and you loose very little by using them. But if your business is owning and operating an IoT platform for your customers, you should invest in a high quality solutio…

Slightly disagree. The important thing is to externalise things that multiple providers support. So externalise hosting Postgres, because 20 companies exist that do that. Don't externalise a one of a kind service you can't build against using open standards. Insource that.

Re: Google IoT Core will be discontinued on Aug. 16, 2023

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's why I prefer to invest time and effort on AWS. I know I won't have to rewrite everything from scratch whenever Google feels like abandoning their projects.

AWS has never discontinued one of their services? Not trolling, seriously asking (I don't use hyperscalers)

Not that I'm aware of. They'd be fully justified in shutting down simpleDB since it hasn't had a feature update in over a decade, but they still keep it running. New accounts can't sign up for it and it only exists in the oldest regions.

They were going to retire old s3 path styles, but they changed their mind after customer feedback.

Re: Google IoT Core will be discontinued on Aug. 16, 2023

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's why I prefer to invest time and effort on AWS. I know I won't have to rewrite everything from scratch whenever Google feels like abandoning their projects.

AWS has never discontinued one of their services? Not trolling, seriously asking (I don't use hyperscalers)

Ec2 classic networking is going away this month.

But that's ancient technology at this point.

Re: Google IoT Core will be discontinued on Aug. 16, 2023

#30

Google should just go ahead and shut down their entire Cloud business. I mean, nobody in their right mind would build a business or anything substantial on top of any Google provided service, and the hobbyist market can't be that big. Just go ahead and drop out Google, and quit fucking wasting everybody's time.

And tensorflow
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