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Re: Tell HN: After 10 years of experiments, custom username emails receive no spam

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As an additional datapoint, my main email address is publicly available (I obfuscate it when typing out of anti-spam research force-of-habit but it's all over the Internet, public records, people's inboxes, company customer lists, etc etc), in continuous use for 15+ years, and I receive less than a handful of spam per week, almost all of the "Hello owner of $DOMAIN would you like you buy our SEO/etc services" genre rather than garden-variety spam.

Possible confounding factor: I try to keep my personal and professional lives ~separate and so the retailers/etc most likely to be compromised get a personal email address (whose inbox is virtually unusable due to amount of commercial email it receives, though relatively little of that is spam per se).

Re: Tell HN: After 10 years of experiments, custom username emails receive no spam

#22

Donate to a political candidate or large non-profit. Those are where I see the most sharing of addresses. I have been doing the same sort of custom emails.

Seriously. Donate to planned parenthood once and you basically ensure that the company spends more over the next 10 years bothering you than your donation was worth.

And I like PP but goddamn, emails coming from a swath of domains, a neverending stream of physical mail.

I won't donate to them again because the amount of contact they try to have with me is absurd.

Re: Tell HN: After 10 years of experiments, custom username emails receive no spam

#23
Maybe not 3rd party spam, but definitely first party spam.

I gave a custom username email to a in-person store (big chain) with a rewards program because they were offering a huge discount if you did. Since then they've sent at least 1 email a day, with an average of about two (I've redirected all their emails to a folder I never look at). Which is a particularly remarkably obnoxious rate of sending emails...

I've also split my email addresses in to a public one (displayed in my profile here, on github, on a website, etc) and a private one. The public one gets a spam email or two a week.

Incidentally, I was surprised to discover that pinterest forbids you from having the word pinterest in your email (or did when I signed up).

Re: Tell HN: After 10 years of experiments, custom username emails receive no spam

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I'm glad you had a good experience. I had a different one. I've ran my own domain for longer than you have, and many emails have been compromised. Some are 100% from companies selling the emails to sister companies. The majority, though, is from a company itself being compromised by hackers / database access / etc. LinkedIn, Neopets, ProFlowers, TeeSpring, etc. I can go on.

Compromises are 99% of those I see (similar setup) - the last 1% is acquired companies that have pivoted/do something else. It's not quite spam, it's not quite illegitimate, but it's not what I signed up for.

>It's not quite spam, it's not quite illegitimate, but it's not what I signed up for.

If it's not what you signed up for, isn't that pretty much the definition of spam?

Re: Tell HN: After 10 years of experiments, custom username emails receive no spam

#25
It's not just companies selling your email address to third parties, it's also companies that keep your email on file and then get compromised.

Most of the spam/phishing I get is from companies that stored my personal details and then got hacked.

I would say it's likely you just got lucky.

Re: Tell HN: After 10 years of experiments, custom username emails receive no spam

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Compromises are 99% of those I see (similar setup) - the last 1% is acquired companies that have pivoted/do something else. It's not quite spam, it's not quite illegitimate, but it's not what I signed up for.

> It's not quite spam, it's not quite illegitimate, but it's not what I signed up for. If it's not what you signed up for, isn't that pretty much the definition of spam?

You usually sign up for "company updates" or some such nomenclature, but after Bob's Discount Swords pivots to Improved Plowshares™, it's not really relevant anymore.

Then again, I actually fill out that little question after unsubscribing. The above I consider "legit" as long as unsubscribe works.

Re: Tell HN: After 10 years of experiments, custom username emails receive no spam

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Donate to a political candidate or large non-profit. Those are where I see the most sharing of addresses. I have been doing the same sort of custom emails.

Yup, one donation and I get a never ending stream of different political campaigns messaging me. Unsubscribe from one and a different one emails me the next day.

Marking them all as spam seems to be helping more than unsubscribing.

Re: Tell HN: After 10 years of experiments, custom username emails receive no spam

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Compromises are 99% of those I see (similar setup) - the last 1% is acquired companies that have pivoted/do something else. It's not quite spam, it's not quite illegitimate, but it's not what I signed up for.

I've seen a shift. Between 2005-2010, I used [company]@[mydomain.com], and I noticed that I would get spam in the form of [gibberish]@[mydomain.com], presumably from spammers who were just targeting email addresses with a catch-call filter. In fact, around that time, my hosting provider, Dreamhost, started restricting email catch-alls to deal with this problem. But then from around 2010 onward, that type of spam beca…

We've successfully pushed spam down hard enough that the only people spamming are people who never even see your email address; it's all computerized and they just don't care at all to try to do anything to clean up the lists.

Re: Tell HN: After 10 years of experiments, custom username emails receive no spam

#30
I think spam to email addresses found in data breaches is more likely.

An address I used only for Comcast Xfinity gets a surprisingly large amount of spam. (I'm no longer a customer and have disabled the address.) I'm not the only one to suspect they've had a data breach:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30062511

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30980625

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31118355

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