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On being tired

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Re: On being tired

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Post by Silverback_VII »

ranprieur wrote: post #14

I find it strange that he takes for granted that activities should "give back energy", and that you have to be dead tired for that not to happen. Personally, even when I have good energy, almost everything I do drains it and doesn't give it back, until I sleep to recharge. Maybe this is the difference between highly motivated people and the rest of us, that they find it normal for activities to give back energy.

Cardiovascular exercise takes more energy than it gives at the beginning but your body will get less easily tired further down the road. So yes, activities can give energy.

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Post by kradeelav »

kiririn wrote: post #13

Concussion is a trial by fire of discovering what is truly not taking up mental energy. In the acute phase you go from having 16+ hours of it per day to 10 minutes. The answer is pretty much just staring at a blank wall. Anything else is costly to a degree

Agreed - surgeries too. Between waiting for the anesthesia to work itself out and the body recovering from the shock of it, it can be a wallop to the energy reserves. Recently slept like 20 hours a day for a day or two after a comparatively mild one.

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Post by williamtrask »

albingroen wrote: post #9

I also think a very large majority of people on this planet are tired because of an unknown deficit of vitamines and minerals like Omega 3, Zink and Vitamin D

Also high CO2 in working and sleeping areas. Basically any older building without HVAC and with upgraded (double pane) windows.

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Post by skrebbel »

glitchc wrote: post #10
beebeepka wrote: post #8

I am a fairly energetic person. Yes, things have been slowing down as I age but my spirit is young. I switched careers several times. About 2 years into my dev role I realized that I do have a relatively fixed amount of cognitive stamina. Took me a while to actually get it. 1. Partying all night has an extremely bad effect due to several factors I better not mention directly 2. Competitive gaming is sucking the life…

People still play Quake?

Of course. It's like honey, it never goes bad.

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Post by skrebbel »

Silverback_VII wrote: post #12

I believe that there is a general tiredness affecting large parts of the population. Maybe some side effects of covid-19 / the vaccines or maybe it’s completely unrelated and more psychological in nature like lack of deeper meaning in most people's lives. All I know is that you have to fight it. this tiredness doesn't go away with more rest. On the contrary, your self-esteem will take a hit and you will internalise y…

This is dangerous advice, it really depends on what you're tired from and you can't apply it generally.

Eg tiredness caused by actual, diagnosed, Long Covid often does go away with more rest. In fact, even a tiny bit too much, too soon, can severely set back your recovery. To my understanding, parent's "just will yourself back into shape" advice is the exact opposite of what long covid patients should be told.

(Source: wife has long covid since January; her own experiences + what her therapists say from research and other clients)

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Post by the_only_law »

beebeepka wrote: post #8

I am a fairly energetic person. Yes, things have been slowing down as I age but my spirit is young. I switched careers several times. About 2 years into my dev role I realized that I do have a relatively fixed amount of cognitive stamina. Took me a while to actually get it. 1. Partying all night has an extremely bad effect due to several factors I better not mention directly 2. Competitive gaming is sucking the life…

> Partying all night has an extremely bad effect due to several factors I better not mention directly

Unfortunately there’s no time to party during the day.

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Post by boredemployee »

glitchc wrote: post #10
beebeepka wrote: post #8

I am a fairly energetic person. Yes, things have been slowing down as I age but my spirit is young. I switched careers several times. About 2 years into my dev role I realized that I do have a relatively fixed amount of cognitive stamina. Took me a while to actually get it. 1. Partying all night has an extremely bad effect due to several factors I better not mention directly 2. Competitive gaming is sucking the life…

People still play Quake?

I do (qw)

Re: On being tired

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Post by the_only_law »

rolisz wrote: post #18
Silverback_VII wrote: post #12

I believe that there is a general tiredness affecting large parts of the population. Maybe some side effects of covid-19 / the vaccines or maybe it’s completely unrelated and more psychological in nature like lack of deeper meaning in most people's lives. All I know is that you have to fight it. this tiredness doesn't go away with more rest. On the contrary, your self-esteem will take a hit and you will internalise y…

How do you fight it? I had COVID in March 2020 and I feel like ever since then I'm more tired all the time, even if I sleep enough.

I didn’t get COVID till this year. I was vaccinated, and while it was the most sick I’ve felt in years, it was relatively short, the worst symptoms only lasting about a day.

A few day’s afterwards, I went out to the mailbox to grab my mail. This is maybe a 5min walk. I was panting heavily by the time I got back. I used to walk 12+ miles a day in shit heat and I’ve never been particularly in shape, so that was worrying.

I haven’t noticed any increase in my tiredness, but my sleep schedule had been fucked long before COVID existed.

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Post by surfmike »

williamtrask wrote: post #23
albingroen wrote: post #9

I also think a very large majority of people on this planet are tired because of an unknown deficit of vitamines and minerals like Omega 3, Zink and Vitamin D

Also high CO2 in working and sleeping areas. Basically any older building without HVAC and with upgraded (double pane) windows.

Most home HVAC systems don’t bring in fresh air, right? Just recirculate air in the house.

Re: On being tired

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Post by tartoran »

angarg12 wrote: post #5

I've spent the last couple of years at the two bottom levels of that scale. It took me an embarrassingly long time to realize one of the root causes: my wife and I have fundamentally different personalities that are at odds with each other. My wife is an extrovert. She is energized by going out, visiting places, doing things, meeting people. I'm an introvert. I get energized by staying in, reading a book, watching a…

Find myself there as well somehow though I wouldn’t call my partner 100% extroverted, Im the onr more on the introverted side. To me a mind trick is to attempt a balance. For instance to realize that it would do me good to be outdoors during which I could still do my introverted stuff (introspection) during which I also do some phisical exercise. I just can’t be 100% within my head all the time, I still have to interact with them from time to time or escape for a walk from time to time. Some times Im out with my family and realize the energy is too good to be missed, this moment has to be taken advantage of, so I join in whatever we’re doing. I usually reserve one day a week of complete me time during which I paint completely isolated from others and distractions. Just knowing there’s an escape valve I can sacrifice a day for another. Im also getting a some dose of introverted recharge while working, while doing repetitive work on autopilot but I have to admit there’s a bit of energy drain there too with the necessary socialization.
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