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A group of activists got leaf blowers banned in the nation’s capital (2019)

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Re: A group of activists got leaf blowers banned in the nation’s capital (2019)

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Outlaw as the author calls them “groomed lawns”. They’re a waste of time, energy and resources that could all be going towards something productive.

Imagine the hubris it takes to think you have the right to choose what people can and "should" spend their time on. I'm guessing you have yet to grasp the concept of individual freedom.

Quite the contrary my dude. What I’m against here is the mandate that you keep yards looking “nice” to “not lower property values”.

Re: A group of activists got leaf blowers banned in the nation’s capital (2019)

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I hate these things and weed whackers with a passion. I don't want to hear power tools first thing in the morning, whoever wakes up thinking "I'm going to start up some LOUD shit at 8am" better be playing bob marley records or something.

This has been a benefit of buying electric power tools and mowers for me. Nobody can hear them if they're not pretty close.

Re: A group of activists got leaf blowers banned in the nation’s capital (2019)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Part of it is because of lawns, if you have a lot of trees the leaves can simply smother your lawn. But even in cities there’s reasons to clean them up. They clog drains, they lump together in the gutter creating blockages that cause large puddles when it rains, they stain the pavement, they decompose on the sidewalk and people track it everywhere in buildings, and more. Maybe you don’t see these as problems that nee…

> Part of it is because of lawns, if you have a lot of trees the leaves can simply smother your lawn. Do you think we don't have trees and lawns in Europe?

Do you think they think you don't have trees and lawns in Europe? Why are you acting like this is hard to understand?

Re: A group of activists got leaf blowers banned in the nation’s capital (2019)

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Wouldn't be more efficient to just ban ICE cars? I'm sure they create way more pollution than leaf blowers.

No they do not create more pollution, at least on a per-unit basis. As it states in the article 2-stroke motors create a ton of air pollution.

It is also much easier to ban 2-stroke motors, which have cheap electrical alternatives than ICE cars in a car dependent US city.

Re: A group of activists got leaf blowers banned in the nation’s capital (2019)

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Outlaw as the author calls them “groomed lawns”. They’re a waste of time, energy and resources that could all be going towards something productive.

Imagine the hubris it takes to think you have the right to choose what people can and "should" spend their time on. I'm guessing you have yet to grasp the concept of individual freedom.

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Re: A group of activists got leaf blowers banned in the nation’s capital (2019)

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I hate these things and weed whackers with a passion. I don't want to hear power tools first thing in the morning, whoever wakes up thinking "I'm going to start up some LOUD shit at 8am" better be playing bob marley records or something.

This has been a benefit of buying electric power tools and mowers for me. Nobody can hear them if they're not pretty close.

I opened the door recently just to have a tiny rock fly from a weed whacker across the way come RIGHT into my eye, it hurt for over a day.

Just hearing those rocks hit against my window is stressful enough but that was enough for me to fantasize about locking people up for using these things if I owned my own small country.

Re: A group of activists got leaf blowers banned in the nation’s capital (2019)

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post #10
post #4

Outlaw as the author calls them “groomed lawns”. They’re a waste of time, energy and resources that could all be going towards something productive.

Imagine the hubris it takes to think you have the right to choose what people can and "should" spend their time on. I'm guessing you have yet to grasp the concept of individual freedom.

Talking about hubris and lawns you need to address how in many many places in the US it is a illegal to have untidy lawns.

Re: A group of activists got leaf blowers banned in the nation’s capital (2019)

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That's interesting about the 2 stroke engine being the issue for pollution. "In 2014 a study published in Nature Communications found that VOC emissions (a variety of carbon gases that can produce smog and harm human beings) were on average 124 times higher from an idling two-stroke scooter than from a truck or a car" Though this quote does make me wonder, what about when each vehicle are in transit?

There is now fuel injected 2-stroke engines which will pass the current Euro4 emissions rules for dirt bikes and motorcycles. There's no reason that a small 2-stroke can't have lower emissions today. It's clearly more expensive to make a fuel and oil injected 2-stroke engine than a simple pre-mix 2-stroke, but it's possible and then you get all the benefits (and even more!) of a traditional 2-stroke in terms of power output, you just have a little computer and some injectors instead of a carburetor.

Re: A group of activists got leaf blowers banned in the nation’s capital (2019)

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Living in Europe, most people just leave fallen leaves alone. I've never seen someone use a leaf blower except for dust etc. Is it a uniquely American thing to obsess over tidying up leaves?

Here in NL, leaf blowers are used by munipical park service employees. I can attest that the constant whining noise of these things can really drive you up the wall when you're trying to get some difficult work done from home.
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