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Re: GitHub is adding web cookies for enterprise users

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Post by haileys »

jacamera wrote: post #19
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The nuisance is an intentional choice by the bad actors in marketing to make you mad about the banner instead of their business practices of tracking you everywhere. Understand that cookie banners are malicious compliance and they make a lot more sense.

Why should I be mad about a tracking cookie? > Understand that cookie banners are malicious compliance and they make a lot more sense. How are they malicious compliance? The laws are poorly-reasoned and poorly-written. I'll continue to be mad about that.

There are no laws in Australia requiring cookie banners, and yet I get hit with them constantly. So the law is clearly not the reason for these annoying banners.

Re: GitHub is adding web cookies for enterprise users

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Post by jacamera »

e2le wrote: post #16
jacamera wrote: post #11

I don't understand why people care about cookies. The stupid cookie banners are an actual nuisance.

Only consent is needed for cookies that aren't strictly necessary. https://gdpr.eu/cookies/ If a site is asking for consent, they're either idiots who don't understand what the law requires of them or they intend on tracking their users.

How do I grant universal consent to be tracked so that I can browse the web in peace? The law failed to consider this and made the browsing experience considerably worse for those of us who couldn't care less about being tracked.

Not to mention teaching users who are not tech-savvy to blindly click "I Accept" and "I Agree" without thinking about it which is an absolute disaster since such users cannot distinguish between a marketing cookie prompt and an OS elevation prompt coming from a piece of malware they just downloaded.

Re: GitHub is adding web cookies for enterprise users

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Post by jacamera »

haileys wrote: post #21
jacamera wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why should I be mad about a tracking cookie? > Understand that cookie banners are malicious compliance and they make a lot more sense. How are they malicious compliance? The laws are poorly-reasoned and poorly-written. I'll continue to be mad about that.

There are no laws in Australia requiring cookie banners, and yet I get hit with them constantly. So the law is clearly not the reason for these annoying banners.

So then why do you think you see them?

*Edit: Sorry if this came off as rude but it was a legitimate question. I honestly cannot think of another plausible reason that would explain the proliferation of the banners.

Re: GitHub is adding web cookies for enterprise users

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Post by booleandilemma »

jacamera wrote: post #11

I don't understand why people care about cookies. The stupid cookie banners are an actual nuisance.

They almost feel like a passive-aggressive thing at this point. There's no reason a cookie banner needs to be a modal dialog that blacks out the rest of the web page.

Re: GitHub is adding web cookies for enterprise users

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Post by nulbyte »

jacamera wrote: post #23
e2le wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only consent is needed for cookies that aren't strictly necessary. https://gdpr.eu/cookies/ If a site is asking for consent, they're either idiots who don't understand what the law requires of them or they intend on tracking their users.

How do I grant universal consent to be tracked so that I can browse the web in peace? The law failed to consider this and made the browsing experience considerably worse for those of us who couldn't care less about being tracked. Not to mention teaching users who are not tech-savvy to blindly click "I Accept" and "I Agree" without thinking about it which is an absolute disaster since such users cannot distinguish bet…

As I understand it, the GDPR did not make web browsing a worse experience. Rather, folks tasked with compliance at a few companies came up with a horrible solution that probably doesn't actually comply, and everyone started copying it. GDPR requires consent; it doesn't require you to come up with the most obnoxious way to obtain it.

Re: GitHub is adding web cookies for enterprise users

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Post by dekelpilli »

jacamera wrote: post #23
e2le wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only consent is needed for cookies that aren't strictly necessary. https://gdpr.eu/cookies/ If a site is asking for consent, they're either idiots who don't understand what the law requires of them or they intend on tracking their users.

How do I grant universal consent to be tracked so that I can browse the web in peace? The law failed to consider this and made the browsing experience considerably worse for those of us who couldn't care less about being tracked. Not to mention teaching users who are not tech-savvy to blindly click "I Accept" and "I Agree" without thinking about it which is an absolute disaster since such users cannot distinguish bet…

> How do I grant universal consent to be tracked so that I can browse the web in peace

There's a browser extension that automatically rejects cookies on these popups - https://consentomatic.au.dk/. I've found it works for most websites.

Re: GitHub is adding web cookies for enterprise users

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Post by ApolloFortyNine »

jacamera wrote: post #23
e2le wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only consent is needed for cookies that aren't strictly necessary. https://gdpr.eu/cookies/ If a site is asking for consent, they're either idiots who don't understand what the law requires of them or they intend on tracking their users.

How do I grant universal consent to be tracked so that I can browse the web in peace? The law failed to consider this and made the browsing experience considerably worse for those of us who couldn't care less about being tracked. Not to mention teaching users who are not tech-savvy to blindly click "I Accept" and "I Agree" without thinking about it which is an absolute disaster since such users cannot distinguish bet…

This tends to be an unpopular opinion here, but I agree completely. We had almost gotten rid of popups entirely, and now we have something worse, a required annoying banner that often causes the whole window to redraw and move around.

Since untracked ads pay 80-90% less than tracked ones, they are borderline required by every site that requires advertising to survive (most websites).

In a way I'm sure it's added to vendor lock in, any random Google result you click is guaranteed to hit you with the banner, which on mobile is especially annoying when since they're also required to be prominent (ie take up half the screen because everything in that law is incredibly vague).

Re: GitHub is adding web cookies for enterprise users

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Post by lopatin »

haileys wrote: post #21
jacamera wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why should I be mad about a tracking cookie? > Understand that cookie banners are malicious compliance and they make a lot more sense. How are they malicious compliance? The laws are poorly-reasoned and poorly-written. I'll continue to be mad about that.

There are no laws in Australia requiring cookie banners, and yet I get hit with them constantly. So the law is clearly not the reason for these annoying banners.

Which Australian sites require cookie opt-ins?
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