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Study finds Wikipedia influences judicial behavior

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Re: Study finds Wikipedia influences judicial behavior

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This is why in itself Wikipedia cannot be a trusted source but should be treated as purely, an extension of the media. They choose who they can cite and who they cannot.

Wikipedia has a very clear pro-science and pro-reality bias, and that's a good thing. You would not want news like OAN to be cited on their.

Depends if it's true though, right? Let's not dismiss everything because culture wars.

Re: Study finds Wikipedia influences judicial behavior

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After watching a female judge sentence a child with autism for killing his rapist and childhood abuser, after he was acquited by a male judge years before, I kind of lost faith in all types of judicial process. AI needs to take over for such things.

An AI would be trained on human decisions, and unless we're careful it can easily have the same biases as human decision making.

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Re: Study finds Wikipedia influences judicial behavior

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This is alarming but I'm not sure the study actually finds that "Wikipedia influences judicial behavior" in the way most readers would understand that term - influencing decisions and sentence. It finds that "Getting a public Wikipedia article increased a case’s citations by more than 20 percent." That could mean judges are citing cases with wikipedia entries rather than similar cases without and their judicial behav…

Why would it be alarming. Wikipedia is a fine entry into any topic. Seeing PragerU influencing the court would be alarming.

Sir, I'm afraid your bias is showing...

Re: Study finds Wikipedia influences judicial behavior

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Citation, please.

Just ask anyone over 40...

I wish those people over 40 hadn't put a US government in place that abolished the fairness doctrine. Then our news sources would probably not be so bananas.

Re: Study finds Wikipedia influences judicial behavior

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After watching a female judge sentence a child with autism for killing his rapist and childhood abuser, after he was acquited by a male judge years before, I kind of lost faith in all types of judicial process. AI needs to take over for such things.

This goes against double jeopardy. Do you have a reference?

I believe "he was acquitted" refers to the abuser, not the killer.

Re: Study finds Wikipedia influences judicial behavior

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would it be alarming. Wikipedia is a fine entry into any topic. Seeing PragerU influencing the court would be alarming.

Sir, I'm afraid your bias is showing...

Pretending PreagerU is anything but blatant propaganda is silly.

Re: Study finds Wikipedia influences judicial behavior

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How did clerks/lawyers find those articles on Wikipedia? Through Google I reckon. I wonder how bad/good the search is for court judgements of their existing system. Sounds like they need to put those court judgements online, or if they already are, do some SEO work so they rank. Wikipedia was a great way to do that.

There are legal search engines which just about every lawyer should have access to. Resorting to google or wikipedia seems like a weird intersection of being comfortable with technology but unaware of any of the standard options.

Re: Study finds Wikipedia influences judicial behavior

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This is alarming but I'm not sure the study actually finds that "Wikipedia influences judicial behavior" in the way most readers would understand that term - influencing decisions and sentence. It finds that "Getting a public Wikipedia article increased a case’s citations by more than 20 percent." That could mean judges are citing cases with wikipedia entries rather than similar cases without and their judicial behav…

Why would it be alarming. Wikipedia is a fine entry into any topic. Seeing PragerU influencing the court would be alarming.

> Wikipedia is a fine entry into any topic

It isn't, that's the point of the study - not all court decisions are on wikipedia and those that are, are getting cited more. Judges, Lawyers, Clerks have access to the original decisions and court transcripts in electronic form going back decades and longer. If they're relying on whats on wikipedia - they're either doing poor research or are too lazy to write their own summations.

Re: Study finds Wikipedia influences judicial behavior

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How did clerks/lawyers find those articles on Wikipedia? Through Google I reckon. I wonder how bad/good the search is for court judgements of their existing system. Sounds like they need to put those court judgements online, or if they already are, do some SEO work so they rank. Wikipedia was a great way to do that.

LexisNexis, which does other things now but started in the legal space, offers a huge collection of legal opinions with a fairly good search and linking capabilities. Most clerks and law professionals would have access to it.

I think the benefit of Wikipedia is not access to materials so much as it is the succinct summarization of the legal opinions. Perhaps now NLP could help with this, but it's a very complicated problem to provide a summary of the important bits from a 100+ page legal document.

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