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The Ex-CIA Agents Deciding Facebook’s Content Policy

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Re: The Ex-CIA Agents Deciding Facebook’s Content Policy

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Knowing a handful of CIA personally, one thing they've all said is "There are no "ex" CIA." It seems to be similar to the USMC's "Once a Marine, always a Marine." Food for thought.

> It seems to be similar to the USMC's "Once a Marine, always a Marine." But people who leave the marines aren't actually marines in any way other than mindset, right? Not sure what I'm supposed to take away from this analogy.

I think the commenter was saying (by analogy) even if all official ties to the CIA are severed, the former CIA employee has so imbibed the CIA Kool Aid that it will be impossible (maybe consciously) to try to go to work at Meta without thinking like a CIA employee. All his decisions will be filtered through the lens of "do I think this is what the government would want?"

Since many of us have met a Marine who – decades later – was still in love with the USMC, we can get a taste of how someone might feel about the CIA years later.

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Do people really believe there is a difference between government and the big tech? These companies regularly get large government contracts, it is unlikely that there aren’t deeper connections. I don’t believe free market exists in the USA and I think it’s economy and media is almost as heavily controlled as China.

The great firewall of China prevents most of their citizens from seeing news that isn’t the party line. And if you share it you face criminal charges. Not to mention their social ranking system. It’s ridiculous to say the US media is almost as heavily controlled as China.

I don't know about USA or China, but in Europe you can't access some Russian media, and it's still not clear to me what is the legal framework that legitimate that.

The European commission have that legal capacity? If somebody know why they can do that, I would like to know.

https://peoplesdispatch.org/2022/03/03/by-banning-russian-me...

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Per... > MintPress News was deprecated in the 2019 RfC, which showed consensus that the site publishes false or fabricated information.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_is_not_a_r...

> Wikipedia is not a reliable source for citations elsewhere on Wikipedia.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Per... > MintPress News was deprecated in the 2019 RfC, which showed consensus that the site publishes false or fabricated information.

The article gives its sources, and I can go to Linkedin myself to verify its veracity. You're making an argument from authority that I should ignore the source since some authority said to - incidentally a source discussing how "former" CIA employees are working to censor what information I can see.

> The article gives its sources, and I can go to Linkedin myself to verify its veracity.

So? If they're willing to publish false or fabricated information to push their conspiracy theories, they're almost certainly willing to do other misleading things to push it too -- like making a mountain out of a molehill or giving some mundane fact a sinister spin.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Per... > MintPress News was deprecated in the 2019 RfC, which showed consensus that the site publishes false or fabricated information.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_is_not_a_r... > Wikipedia is not a reliable source for citations elsewhere on Wikipedia.

>> Wikipedia is not a reliable source for citations elsewhere on Wikipedia.

Lucky for you, I'm not citing Wikipedia in a Wikipedia article.

All my cite does is show the people you probably rely on for basic information about the world looked into this source and found it severely lacking.

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Do people really believe there is a difference between government and the big tech? These companies regularly get large government contracts, it is unlikely that there aren’t deeper connections. I don’t believe free market exists in the USA and I think it’s economy and media is almost as heavily controlled as China.

I was with you until this sentence: > I don’t believe free market exists in the USA and I think it’s economy and media is almost as heavily controlled as China. It depends on sector and scale. At the small- and medium-size business level, yes there are free markets. As you get into large businesses and highly political structures (media, healthcare, education, etc.) you're right, we are nearly devoid of a free market…

That's exactly like China though. The heavy involvement of military and quasi-military outfits in business is also exactly like China. It is what our own State Department and other liberal (in the larger economic sense of the word) opinion outlets have criticized China for for decades.
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