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Amazon instructs New York workers “don't sign” union cards

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Re: Amazon instructs New York workers “don't sign” union cards

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mrits: "You guys love the police union too, right? Right???" The general idea, yeah. It proves how strong a union can be. The implementation? No. A union for people who have monopoly on violence? No. A union that protects people who are actively hurting civilians without recourse? No.

In the UK the police are neither allowed to form a union or strike.

Re: Amazon instructs New York workers “don't sign” union cards

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> The ALU may ask you to sign an authorization card or share a QR code to fill out an online authorization card. > This is a legally binding document Ooh scary ... is the employment contract signed by Amazon's employees not legally binding? How is it Amazon's business what their grown-ass employees can or cannot sign? > By signing a card or filling out an online authorization form, you are providing the ALU your pers…

"How can we make the mundane and expected sound eeeeeeevil and dangerous?"

Re: Amazon instructs New York workers “don't sign” union cards

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> By signing a card or filling out an online authorization form, you are authorizing the ALU to speak on your behalf.

Yeah, they were great at listening before.

Also, where are these unions where the people in it aren't the people it represents. Recently, a school board election ad, "we have to stop the teachers union and start listening to teachers." Well, who the hell is in the teachers union if not teachers?

Re: Amazon instructs New York workers “don't sign” union cards

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> The ALU may ask you to sign an authorization card or share a QR code to fill out an online authorization card. > This is a legally binding document Ooh scary ... is the employment contract signed by Amazon's employees not legally binding? How is it Amazon's business what their grown-ass employees can or cannot sign? > By signing a card or filling out an online authorization form, you are providing the ALU your pers…

"How can we make the mundane and expected sound eeeeeeevil and dangerous?"

But did they cross state lines?

Re: Amazon instructs New York workers “don't sign” union cards

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Realistically an Amazon-wide union is the only way Amazon workers are going to get decent wage increases. If the USA is going to allow manufacturers to outsource the majority of well-paid (~$30/hr avg) manufacturing jobs to Mexico and China, without having any cross-border capital flow penalities (neoliberal globalism in a nutshell), then the major employers like Amazon and Walmart are going to have to double their w…

> Yes, that means less for the executives and shareholders. They may have to sell some of their properties, oh dear.

Based on retail business profit margins, it would mean higher prices for customers. Not that that is a bad thing, less consumption would be great.

Re: Amazon instructs New York workers “don't sign” union cards

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Realistically an Amazon-wide union is the only way Amazon workers are going to get decent wage increases. If the USA is going to allow manufacturers to outsource the majority of well-paid (~$30/hr avg) manufacturing jobs to Mexico and China, without having any cross-border capital flow penalities (neoliberal globalism in a nutshell), then the major employers like Amazon and Walmart are going to have to double their w…

Perhaps you should consider that maybe some of those shareholders are your parents whose retirement future depends on those investments?

Re: Amazon instructs New York workers “don't sign” union cards

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A union is just a way to make a multilateral contract negotiation between one huge party and hundreds of thousands of very small parties into a bi-lateral contract negotiation between two equals, it’s a completely rational negotiating tactic in a pure capitalist system and it can only be prevented by restricting basic human rights to freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of contract and the right to live without fear of violence.

Re: Amazon instructs New York workers “don't sign” union cards

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mrits: "You guys love the police union too, right? Right???" The general idea, yeah. It proves how strong a union can be. The implementation? No. A union for people who have monopoly on violence? No. A union that protects people who are actively hurting civilians without recourse? No.

In the UK the police are neither allowed to form a union or strike.

How can you ban people from going on strike? The entire point of a strike is that you're not working when you're supposed to be.
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