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This doesn't mean that end consumers should pay spot prices - we have seen where that leads in Texas. But having four distinct prices for night, morning, day and evening might already achieve a lot.
But, still, none of the large thermostat makers offer any type of integration to the local utility. Or even the local weather! ComEd actually offers a box with a 3G modem that sits outside next to the A/C compressor and will cycle it off when demand is too high. But even that has no connection to the inside system.
Ecobee. Nest. Honeywell. Johnson. What's up with everyone?
We've had real-time pricing in our area (ComEd/PJM) for over a decade now, and we even have celluar+Zigbee-enabled smart meters attached to all the homes. I even bought a gateway where I can read my usage with pretty good resolution every 10 seconds. But, still, none of the large thermostat makers offer any type of integration to the local utility. Or even the local weather! ComEd actually offers a box with a 3G mode…
Ecobee has eco+ which has "Community Energy Savings" [0]. It was just way too intrusive. It seemed to be a reactive system vs proactive. Technology Connections goes into this more [1], but I believe they should be providing a system that proactively cools when there is less demand _prior_ to an expected increase in demand. Effectively using your house as a "battery". When I had it enabled, I was _always_ too hot (in…
Isn't this exactly what they do? That what the Nest does when there's going to be a spike; it cools the house.
Smart thermometer manufacturers could solve this fairly easily by randomizing the start time. Instead of them all turning on the heater in the winter at 6am, they could i.e pick a random start time between 5:30-6:30 by default.
I think Google Maps does it too with routing— it adds a bit of fuzz so that it doesn't send literally every car down path A when there's a path B that's nearly as goo.
Ecobee has eco+ which has "Community Energy Savings" [0]. It was just way too intrusive. It seemed to be a reactive system vs proactive. Technology Connections goes into this more [1], but I believe they should be providing a system that proactively cools when there is less demand _prior_ to an expected increase in demand. Effectively using your house as a "battery". When I had it enabled, I was _always_ too hot (in…
We've had real-time pricing in our area (ComEd/PJM) for over a decade now, and we even have celluar+Zigbee-enabled smart meters attached to all the homes. I even bought a gateway where I can read my usage with pretty good resolution every 10 seconds. But, still, none of the large thermostat makers offer any type of integration to the local utility. Or even the local weather! ComEd actually offers a box with a 3G mode…
My utility can (with an opt-in on my part) tell my Nest to go into power-saving mode on a high demand day. https://support.google.com/googlenest/answer/9244031
Simply exposing homeowners to real time pricing would be useful, even if nothing is done automatically with that information.
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My utility can (with an opt-in on my part) tell my Nest to go into power-saving mode on a high demand day. https://support.google.com/googlenest/answer/9244031
This is reactive; a better scheme is proactive: on a day when the A/C demand is likely to be high, precool the house during off hours to 60 F and then turn off the A/C. Simply exposing homeowners to real time pricing would be useful, even if nothing is done automatically with that information.
https://support.google.com/googlenest/answer/9749812
> Once your thermostat knows the Rush Hour is coming, it may pre-adjust the temperature in your home before it starts. This is so less energy is needed to heat or cool your home during the Rush Hour event.
If a smart thermostat is turning on at a factory set "default time", I wouldn't consider it to be doing its job of adjusting the timings based on your usage habits.
Ecobee has eco+ which has "Community Energy Savings" [0]. It was just way too intrusive. It seemed to be a reactive system vs proactive. Technology Connections goes into this more [1], but I believe they should be providing a system that proactively cools when there is less demand _prior_ to an expected increase in demand. Effectively using your house as a "battery". When I had it enabled, I was _always_ too hot (in…