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Car Repos Are Exploding. That’s a Bad Omen

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Re: Car Repos Are Exploding. That’s a Bad Omen

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Why do people borrow money to buy a car? Why not save money, maybe invest in something safe(ish), and buy your car in cash, preferably used? I get it that people get emotional about cars, but good heavens, this impulse puts you in the hole for years. It's almost as bad as cheating on your wife (and far, far worse than cheating on a gf).

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Re: Car Repos Are Exploding. That’s a Bad Omen

#22
post #15

Why would someone extend a loan to people based on one-time or limited time stimulus payments?

Maybe to take their one-time/limited stimulus payments, and then repossess when people can no longer pay?

I'm sure if they felt that they wouldn't be able to repossess, they wouldn't be nearly as incautious in extending the loan.

Re: Car Repos Are Exploding. That’s a Bad Omen

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post #8

Why do people borrow money to buy a car? Why not save money, maybe invest in something safe(ish), and buy your car in cash, preferably used? I get it that people get emotional about cars, but good heavens, this impulse puts you in the hole for years. It's almost as bad as cheating on your wife (and far, far worse than cheating on a gf).

I can get a car loan for 0%-5% interest rate

In most market I feel you can safely earn at least an ~8% return if you invest fairly conservatively.

Why would I forego an 3-8% return on my money by paying cash for an asset that's just going to depreciate?

Re: Car Repos Are Exploding. That’s a Bad Omen

#26

Here I was imagining actual explosives hampering repo efforts, when they merely speak of a rising rate of auto repos. OK. I fell for it.

My first read was that there were more open source repositories on Github for each new type of car, and I was like, "actually that sounds awesome"

Re: Car Repos Are Exploding. That’s a Bad Omen

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Car financing is a good way to build credit before buying a home. I regret that my credit score actually went down when I paid off my car loan early. The rules are really weird here. Using some credit is better than using no credit if you think you might need credit in the future (mostly to buy a house). Also, buying a new car is much less of a hassle than buying a used one. The price difference between used and new…

> Car financing is a good way to build credit before buying a home. I've heard people say this, but it's never made sense to me and sounds like something the loan industry has convinced people of just to sell more loans. Is it actually true? Every time I've gotten a mortgage, they seem to just care about my income and whether I've had any missed payments on credit cards or other bills before. And credit scores aren’t…

I went through buying a house a couple of years ago and it was really true. That my credit score got dinged because I paid off my loan early was a real head scratcher, but it was on the credit reports I pulled.

Ya, not having income is a blocker, but you also need to take care of your credit score. I basically had no credit score because I was out of country for 11 years (and..unlike new immigrants, they don't give Americans a benefit of the doubt here), so credit cards and an auto loan was really important when I came back (not having had a car for 11 years made my insurance premium go up, also).

Re: Car Repos Are Exploding. That’s a Bad Omen

#28
post #8

Why do people borrow money to buy a car? Why not save money, maybe invest in something safe(ish), and buy your car in cash, preferably used? I get it that people get emotional about cars, but good heavens, this impulse puts you in the hole for years. It's almost as bad as cheating on your wife (and far, far worse than cheating on a gf).

I tried to use cash to purchase a new Honda CR-V from the dealership in 2019 but they wouldn't let me. When I spoke with the manager, he explained that the dealership made more money off the loan than they did from selling the vehicle. Maybe things have changed since then though.

Re: Car Repos Are Exploding. That’s a Bad Omen

#29
post #8

Why do people borrow money to buy a car? Why not save money, maybe invest in something safe(ish), and buy your car in cash, preferably used? I get it that people get emotional about cars, but good heavens, this impulse puts you in the hole for years. It's almost as bad as cheating on your wife (and far, far worse than cheating on a gf).

It's impossible to have a job without a car.

Re: Car Repos Are Exploding. That’s a Bad Omen

#30
Used Car prices have increased a lot in the pandemic due to the chip shortage, logistics bottlenecks, and rising demand. So most car loans that predate 2020 are in the money - the car can be sold to fully cover the loan. But cars purchased in 2021 are not necessarily in positive equity. This is why repos are growing and why they are mostly for car loans originated in the last two years.
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