From reading the article, $200M was for the rights alone, and NZ is rebating 25% so it comes out to more like 150M net on production of the actual show.
Amazon spending $465M on season 1 of The Lord of the Rings series
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Re: Amazon spending $465M on season 1 of The Lord of the Rings series
#22They should have taken 100M of that and fund the remaining three seasons of The Expanse.
Re: Amazon spending $465M on season 1 of The Lord of the Rings series
#23Even with the rebate, how can they hope to recoup the investment? Merch? DVD Sales? Increasing sign ups to Prime? I have a doubt the profits from that will help them earn money to cover up the remaining 300 million or so they have still invested. And the "internet" really reacted negatively to the trailer as well. (I personally didn't hate the trailer myself but after having watched the original trilogy and the first…
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Re: Amazon spending $465M on season 1 of The Lord of the Rings series
#24Even with the rebate, how can they hope to recoup the investment? Merch? DVD Sales? Increasing sign ups to Prime? I have a doubt the profits from that will help them earn money to cover up the remaining 300 million or so they have still invested. And the "internet" really reacted negatively to the trailer as well. (I personally didn't hate the trailer myself but after having watched the original trilogy and the first…
Keep in mind that Amazon needs to get only ~0.2M incremental Amazon Prime subscribers to recoup the investment. The lifetime value (LTV) of a Prime subscriber has been estimated at ~$2,300.[a] You can play around with the figure, but given that every LOTR fan is going to want to watch this series even if it sucks , I wouldn't be surprised is Amazon ends up getting far more than ~0.2M new Prime subscribers because of…
I'm a fan, I've got Prime, and I'm not interested in the slightest, I'm done watching giant companies ruin good franchises and legacy characters. Would have to put a gun to my head to watch this one
Re: Amazon spending $465M on season 1 of The Lord of the Rings series
#25Even with the rebate, how can they hope to recoup the investment? Merch? DVD Sales? Increasing sign ups to Prime? I have a doubt the profits from that will help them earn money to cover up the remaining 300 million or so they have still invested. And the "internet" really reacted negatively to the trailer as well. (I personally didn't hate the trailer myself but after having watched the original trilogy and the first…
Keep in mind that Amazon needs to get only ~0.2M incremental Amazon Prime subscribers to recoup the investment. The lifetime value (LTV) of a Prime subscriber has been estimated at ~$2,300.[a] You can play around with the figure, but given that every LOTR fan is going to want to watch this series even if it sucks , I wouldn't be surprised is Amazon ends up getting far more than ~0.2M new Prime subscribers because of…
In Poland Amazon Prime is only 10 usd / year. So the math is much harder outside the US.
Re: Amazon spending $465M on season 1 of The Lord of the Rings series
#26Even with the rebate, how can they hope to recoup the investment? Merch? DVD Sales? Increasing sign ups to Prime? I have a doubt the profits from that will help them earn money to cover up the remaining 300 million or so they have still invested. And the "internet" really reacted negatively to the trailer as well. (I personally didn't hate the trailer myself but after having watched the original trilogy and the first…
Keep in mind that Amazon needs to get only ~0.2M incremental Amazon Prime subscribers to recoup the investment. The lifetime value (LTV) of a Prime subscriber has been estimated at ~$2,300.[a] You can play around with the figure, but given that every LOTR fan is going to want to watch this series even if it sucks , I wouldn't be surprised is Amazon ends up getting far more than ~0.2M new Prime subscribers because of…
> but given that every LOTR fan is going to want to watch this series even if it sucks
Citation needed. I'm a big fan of LOTR, but I didn't even bother with the last Hobbit movie. And I expect this series to be even worse than that.
Re: Amazon spending $465M on season 1 of The Lord of the Rings series
#27I’m not so sure the LOTR series is ideal for expansion. It feels like Peter Jackson has already tackled all the really interesting parts of the LOTR world.
The better question is whether it's possible to create a LotR representation with even a shred of the original's soul. Chris Tolkien hated the Jackson trilogy, and then see how much further modern market demands pushed The Hobbit's execution. I don't want to see what another ten years of compromises and pandering will do to the product.
Re: Amazon spending $465M on season 1 of The Lord of the Rings series
#28I’m not so sure the LOTR series is ideal for expansion. It feels like Peter Jackson has already tackled all the really interesting parts of the LOTR world.
You can do interesting stories in any setting. LOTR is just a famous brand which means the show is going to be easier to market. I mean if you think about it the LOTR lore is mostly a somewhat christianised version of Norse mythology. It leaves a lot of room especially if you don’t feel too bound to the original texts which are frankly uneven.
> You can do interesting stories in any setting.
While it may be possible, money grubbing capitalist pig scum like Disney seem completely incapable of it, so I doubt this will end well. Capitalists destroy everything because instead of focusing on stakeholders they focus on profit above all else.
Re: Amazon spending $465M on season 1 of The Lord of the Rings series
#29Obviously, I’ll wait and see once it comes out. But it seems odd to spend so much and not have a single established creator that has put out great content. And not to involve Jackson seems off because even having him in a consulting role would be a good sign. Looking at the imdb page this seems like a corporate driven project rather than a creator driven project with lots of different directors that haven’t don’t any…
While I'm not particularly looking forward to this series, having rather unknown actors isn't putting me off at all.
And why shouldn't they go with directors they are happy with? TV series often have a lot of different directors, often directing just a single episode of a season or even a series.
Re: Amazon spending $465M on season 1 of The Lord of the Rings series
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Silmarillion has some very interesting stories, though. Much more potential than in Hobbit, really. Potential can be squandered though.
As much as I would like to see live action Silmarillion, it would probably be the most expensive tv show of all time. Many epic scenes can't possibly be shot for real so the show would require odious amounts of CGI. Heck at this point, hire a studio that makes video game trailers and turn the whole thing into a 50+ hours CGI tv show.
Silmarillion as done by Blur Studios would be incredible.