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Pentaform launches AbacusBasic, the ‘world’s most affordable PC’

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MicroCenter sells their cheapest laptop with Windows 10 included for $79.99 . https://www.microcenter.com/product/646649/evolve-iii-maestr... So... ?

Wow. And not only is it a complete laptop for that price, but it appears to come with more memory and storage (4GB/64GB) than Abacus's base model (2GB/0).

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You know what's better than Pentaform? Any of the companies doing refurbishing and resale of used PCs. I can get a laptop that has everything built-in and the same performance as this cheap wasteful keyboard for the same price. Amazing! But damn they suck at marketing. If only they claimed to launch the world's most affordable and environmentally friendly PC. Guess they didn't have the money for that.

Exactly, I just picked up a beautiful condition Thinkpad T430 with 8G ram and 120G SSD for $80. Admittedly, a great deal, but I see them commonly available for around the same price as the Pentaform.

Interesting! I was considering a raspberry pi 4 for some things but a laptop is more appropriate. Where would I find these?

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MicroCenter sells their cheapest laptop with Windows 10 included for $79.99 . https://www.microcenter.com/product/646649/evolve-iii-maestr... So... ?

Or buy a reconditioned thin client for 20-30 USD on eBay.

Add 10 USD for a keyboard and mouse.

The result will be much better than the OP in every way.

Re: Pentaform launches AbacusBasic, the ‘world’s most affordable PC’

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I suppose the headline might be true if "PC" means "a computer with an x86 processor that can mostly run modern Windows." But, I'd recommend most people in this market look at either a Raspberry Pi or a Chromebook, depending on what they're trying to do.

I think ARM would be allowed, but for a layman to consider it a PC, you probably do need the windows capabilities.

Raspberry Pi actually made a model that is built into a keyboard. I think it’s called the 400. And it’s less expensive than the PC linked above

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Interesting that it's using the Atom x5-Z8350. I've seen idle power consumption under 1.5W on these chips when software is setup properly. I'm wondering if intel are still selling these chips or are they going to run out when supply dries up?

For the profit choosing the cheapest Intel Atom available probably make sense, but the reality is that this CPU seems slow [1]. The Atom CPU only supports 2 GB RAM maximum, it's strange that it's advertised supporting up to 8 GB RAM. This CPU also categorized as mobile, given that most of the users probably use the PC+keyboard as PC replacement perhaps it's a poor choice of CPU.

Having said that I really think this PC+keyboard form factor is excellent for educational setup where the students can use with their own or lab monitor. It can also work with external portable screen [2].

The good choice of CPU for this low cost PC+keyboard would be the latest Celeron G9000. The Celeron CPU cost double around USD40 but for the price you get dual-core 3.4 GHz speed with up to 128 GB RAM supporting 4K display [3]. If someone can sell this PC+keyboard with this Celeron CPU with 64GB RAM at USD150 price it will probably sell like hot cakes. Perhaps a good opportunity for a crowd supply type of development.

[1]https://www.reddit.com/r/Surface/comments/8a7snc/is_the_atom...

[2]https://www.techradar.com/reviews/asus-zenscreen-mb16a-porta...

[3]https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/96163/i...

Re: Pentaform launches AbacusBasic, the ‘world’s most affordable PC’

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly, I just picked up a beautiful condition Thinkpad T430 with 8G ram and 120G SSD for $80. Admittedly, a great deal, but I see them commonly available for around the same price as the Pentaform.

Interesting! I was considering a raspberry pi 4 for some things but a laptop is more appropriate. Where would I find these?

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=T430&_sacat=0

Despite having a 10 year old cpu, it's way faster than an rpi, though the later has it's own use cases.

Re: Pentaform launches AbacusBasic, the ‘world’s most affordable PC’

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Putting the fact there’s cheaper options aside, who was this made for? They made an affordable computer supposedly for people without computers but it doesn’t have a screen, as if those people have ready access to a monitor or TV, and a 4K one at that. Maybe that’s not the target demographic?

Re: Pentaform launches AbacusBasic, the ‘world’s most affordable PC’

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MicroCenter sells their cheapest laptop with Windows 10 included for $79.99 . https://www.microcenter.com/product/646649/evolve-iii-maestr... So... ?

This is absolutely amazing. They say retail margins are about 50%, so for 40 bucks they're making a battery pack, charger, lcd monitor, keyboard, track pad, Intel processor computer and Microsoft windows. Incredible
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