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What’s the showstopper into bringing an open phone to a general audience? (Aka open box, turn on, type in credentials and done.)
In the meantime I hope my ancient iPhone keeps working.
It’s a pity we are not at a level where open(-like) phones are a thing. I have been looking from time to time for one that pretty much works out of the box, but all the stories are not painting a pretty picture. What’s the showstopper into bringing an open phone to a general audience? (Aka open box, turn on, type in credentials and done.) In the meantime I hope my ancient iPhone keeps working.
It’s a pity we are not at a level where open(-like) phones are a thing. I have been looking from time to time for one that pretty much works out of the box, but all the stories are not painting a pretty picture. What’s the showstopper into bringing an open phone to a general audience? (Aka open box, turn on, type in credentials and done.) In the meantime I hope my ancient iPhone keeps working.
The best daily driveable "open"(as in OS and Kernel) and privacy focused experience would be with a Google Pixel and CalyxOS / GrapheneOS.
be aware, you might face issues with SafetyNet, other than that its perfect.
It’s a pity we are not at a level where open(-like) phones are a thing. I have been looking from time to time for one that pretty much works out of the box, but all the stories are not painting a pretty picture. What’s the showstopper into bringing an open phone to a general audience? (Aka open box, turn on, type in credentials and done.) In the meantime I hope my ancient iPhone keeps working.
Possibly the general audience isn't interested in the benefits of an open phone. I remember a HN comment where a phone manufacturer said making relationships with suppliers was almost impossible without a decent sized market segment.
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What do you mean by battery life? That's just usually a function of temperature, number of charge cycles, not overharging, etc. And the battery will last you for a long time. Ceratinly for a few years.
They mean how long a battery lasts until depletion, not how long it lasts until it's no longer functional.
You can have Pinephone suspended for 7 days if you like, under certain circumstances. Or you can drain it 2.5h if you mean to compile Gentoo on it. And completely different SW optimizations would come into play depending on the scenario.
"Battery life" usually means how long will battery last, before you need to replace it.
Why is battery life such a difficult thing to achieve? Is it hard to implement in a driver? Or is the battery just low quality? I've heard energy management is often difficult to do right in Linux, but I just wonder why...
Unfortunately the hardware is incredibly subpar. I see no real future for Linux mobile unless the EU makes some law that forces Apple/Samsung to make flashing easier.
Unfortunately, this seems to be a common line of thinking, not least within the EU corridors of power themselves: Instead of nurturing competition and their own tech industry or create an environment where such an industry can thrive, they somehow try to regulate it into being.
This way, Linux on smartphones would still remain a very niche proposition for hobbyists and enthusiasts. Regular consumers probably wouldn't flash their expensive Apple or Samsung phones just to run Linux on them.
Without a vendor selling a complete product, alternative smartphone operating systems will largely remain a pipe dream.
It’s a pity we are not at a level where open(-like) phones are a thing. I have been looking from time to time for one that pretty much works out of the box, but all the stories are not painting a pretty picture. What’s the showstopper into bringing an open phone to a general audience? (Aka open box, turn on, type in credentials and done.) In the meantime I hope my ancient iPhone keeps working.
Possibly the general audience isn't interested in the benefits of an open phone. I remember a HN comment where a phone manufacturer said making relationships with suppliers was almost impossible without a decent sized market segment.
I have og and Pro. One thing I wonder about is can the popular apps be made legally in an open source way, do you have to get the companies to make a Linux app for PP/PPP. This is with regard to get mass adoption.
You can run android apps in a waydroid container, albeit it will still be closed-source.
> five to seven hours of idle battery life > a lack of notifications, something I as a "my phone is in silent mode, no it does not even vibrate, I mean it when I say silent" > when I dropped my PinePhones I was lucky enough to not break them, I am not affected by a failing WiFi/BT chip (an issue not too uncommon by my anecdata) > I remember attempting to bring the factory image up-to-date around the date devices ship…
I'm tempted to get it as a second phone and run NixOS Mobile on it. It'll be awful for years. But if many people with my skills & elbow grease levels marinates with it for a few years, it could become special. It takes guts to be amazing, after all!