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Kickstarter Union voted 97.6% to ratify one of the first tech union contracts

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Is it mandatory for employees to join the union?

Or course not. You can work somewhere else if you don’t want collective representation. Can’t have your cake and eat it too, getting benefits of a union without joining it is freeloading.

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Re: Kickstarter Union voted 97.6% to ratify one of the first tech union contracts

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Kickstarter may survive since they enjoy near monopoly status, but otherwise how can they compete given that high performers in tech are allergic to unions?

> high performers in tech are allergic to unions? High performers in tech do not have a problem with the heirs who own a majority of their corporation's stock telling them what to do, but are allergic to the people alongside them doing the work and creating the wealth from having input.

What does this mean?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or course not. You can work somewhere else if you don’t want collective representation. Can’t have your cake and eat it too, getting benefits of a union without joining it is freeloading.

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Kickstarter may survive since they enjoy near monopoly status, but otherwise how can they compete given that high performers in tech are allergic to unions?

>but otherwise how can they compete given that high performers in tech are allergic to unions

If you're talking about keeping 'high performers' in sales, that's what commission is for.

If you're talking about keeping 'high performers' in engineering, ... well, do you even need high performers? Due to the nature of their business, there are no challenging technical feats to accomplish. You really just need solid engineers to push the product and maintain the infrastructure.

Re: Kickstarter Union voted 97.6% to ratify one of the first tech union contracts

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Love that someone in tech is finally getting unions in tech, don't love that it was kickstarter though. Their corporate culture is very toxic and I don't see them sticking around long term. It might be just me but my impression of kickstarter is that they are some of the worst offenders of 'maximum virtue signaling, minimum virtue'. That makes me inherently skeptical of a move like this.

Can you shed some light on why you think they have a toxic culture? Have you worked there?

Re: Kickstarter Union voted 97.6% to ratify one of the first tech union contracts

#26
post #8

Is it mandatory for employees to join the union?

Or course not. You can work somewhere else if you don’t want collective representation. Can’t have your cake and eat it too, getting benefits of a union without joining it is freeloading.

When I worked at a place with UAW representation, you had the option to not become a UAW member and still work there, but you had to pay some portion of the union dues anyway. They were not called dues in that case, but something else. The argument was that UAW had negotiated certain benefits that you enjoyed whether you were a member or not, so you should still pay something.

Re: Kickstarter Union voted 97.6% to ratify one of the first tech union contracts

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This is fantastic. Kudos to them. Copying some things they won, for the non-clickers: - Minimum 3% annual CoL raises - Profit-sharing bonuses - Putting their current benefits in the contract, so management will have to re-negotiate if they want to make them worse. - Replacing at-will with "just cause", progressive disciplining, with criteria for performance improvement plans. Looking forward to more details & seeing…

>Minimum 3% annual CoL raises Weird that they call it a CoL raise. If it isn't tied to cost, it is just an minimum annual raise.

We don't know what it's tied to, because that's just the minimum.

Re: Kickstarter Union voted 97.6% to ratify one of the first tech union contracts

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post #5

Kickstarter may survive since they enjoy near monopoly status, but otherwise how can they compete given that high performers in tech are allergic to unions?

> given that high performers in tech are allergic to unions

You can prove anything from a false premise.

Re: Kickstarter Union voted 97.6% to ratify one of the first tech union contracts

#30
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Minimum 3% annual CoL raises Weird that they call it a CoL raise. If it isn't tied to cost, it is just an minimum annual raise.

Weird that you're arguing that 3% isn't a CoL raise, when inflation has been pegged to 2.25% for decades, and is currently 8%+

> to 2.25% for decades, and is currently 8%+

That plus sign is pretty subtle there.

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