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Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

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Re: Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

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Post by isp »

timeimp wrote: post #5

Does anyone work in an “enterprise” environment who have been dreading this day? Any apps / mainframes / industrials systems that needs IE to run?

All versions of Windows Server are (for now) unaffected, i.e., Internet Explorer 11 continues to run [1].

There is also "Internet Explorer Mode" in Edge, which uses iexplore.exe under the hood.

Additionally, if somebody were _really_ desperate to launch iexplore.exe itself, then there are unsupported means to do so.

For example, via manually modifying the registry key "NotifyDisableIEOptions" under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main\

My favourite hack though, which should not be used by anyone ever, is launching via the COM object interface, which bypasses the registry key check [2]. I have personally verified that this works(!)

[1] https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/windows-it-pro-blog/i...

[2] https://twitter.com/aaaddress1/status/1523590203658862592

Re: Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

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Post by raxxorraxor »

timeimp wrote: post #5

Does anyone work in an “enterprise” environment who have been dreading this day? Any apps / mainframes / industrials systems that needs IE to run?

I used it to authenticate against some webdav intranet sites hosted on Sharepoint Online. Formerly on a SSO standard windows AD integrated system you needed to open internet explorer once. It did some arcane voodoo in the background you didn't need to do anything with it, just close it again. But if you did that you could connect to Sharepoint sites through the file explorer via webdav. This process needed to be repeated every other week when the arcane voodoo authentication needed to be refreshed.

Re: Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

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Post by leeter »

calvinmorrison wrote: post #17
DrBazza wrote: post #7

Having lived through the MS/IE6 era of being the monopoly web browser, and effectively determined and held back web standards for a long time, it's bittersweet that we now have Google/Chrome era. At least it's not hard wired into the OS and we're not going through another era of mega-corp hard wiring browsers into their OSes any more. Oh wait.

Say what you will (I am a sole firefox user for a decade +), at least chrome keeps improving and having development. Now that the web is more of a "VM in a window for applications", it's _not_ like the IE era of no updates, buggy crap, un-debuggable, etc.

Yes and no, Chrome does what's good for google with no regard for most of the rest. To make it worse google goes out of their way to break compatibility with other browsers when it comes to their stuff. It's really no different and in many ways just as bad. The only major difference is google's incentives do align with innovation for web; insofar as it furthers advertising revenue for google.

https://www.developer-tech.com/news/2019/apr/17/mozilla-goog...

Re: Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

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Post by err4nt »

Being in web development since 2004, I both thought the day would never arrive, and would have arrived a lot sooner than 2022. Tech-wise, there were times when IE was advanced, often in non-standard ways, but it was innovative. There are other ways where it was a major thorn in the side of every web developer and required much extra attention and care. And yet, since about 2014 or 2015, the world of web standards had caught up to and surpassed IE in every area. So here's to a surprisingly bittersweet farewell

Re: Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

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Post by hda111 »

DrBazza wrote: post #7

Having lived through the MS/IE6 era of being the monopoly web browser, and effectively determined and held back web standards for a long time, it's bittersweet that we now have Google/Chrome era. At least it's not hard wired into the OS and we're not going through another era of mega-corp hard wiring browsers into their OSes any more. Oh wait.

Look like browsers can only exist as monopoly.

Re: Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

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Post by [deleted] »

calvinmorrison wrote: post #17
DrBazza wrote: post #7

Having lived through the MS/IE6 era of being the monopoly web browser, and effectively determined and held back web standards for a long time, it's bittersweet that we now have Google/Chrome era. At least it's not hard wired into the OS and we're not going through another era of mega-corp hard wiring browsers into their OSes any more. Oh wait.

Say what you will (I am a sole firefox user for a decade +), at least chrome keeps improving and having development. Now that the web is more of a "VM in a window for applications", it's _not_ like the IE era of no updates, buggy crap, un-debuggable, etc.

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Re: Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

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Post by logifail »

Q: What about the Internet Explorer versions that shipped in the Windows 10 LTSC[0], most (all?) of which are very much still "in support"[1]?

[0] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/whats-new/ltsc/ [1] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/faq/windows#what-...

Re: Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

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Post by space_ghost »

wolframhempel wrote: post #10

I started my career 2008 building real estate and stock news websites. Back then, sooooo much of my days were spent making things "IE compatible" using techniques like: - creating sprite sheets of transparent png corners and sides that one could arrange in a table around an element to create drop-shadows and rounded corners - putting single pixel, transparent gifs at the end of floated containers because clearfix use…

I strongly remember using Firebug in Firefox (mind-blowing tools, for the time) in ~2008 and having to debug issues in IE, which had the equivalent of a Check Engine Light for debugging.

Re: Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

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Post by dekerta »

konfusinomicon wrote: post #14

im speculating that in a wild twist of events, MS announces the revival of Netscape Navigator, just to keep all the web developers on their toes and make sure they get enough practice working with cross browser compatability

No need. Safari fills that role for us now
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