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You Are the Average of Your Five Closest Friends

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Re: You Are the Average of Your Five Closest Friends

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Somewhat misleading headline I think given the content of the article but still a valid point. My question to you folks out there is this: I came across this statement sometime back and realized I need to change my friends if I am to better my situation. My friends, while good people, are not goal oriented and have for all intents and purposes given up. The people who I'd like to hang out with and who can help me gro…

Just like anything else in life, you have to do this step-by-step.

First, don't sell yourself short. You have some valuable attributes and characteristics that others will find valuable. You find a friend or group of friends who are a notch or two closer to where you want to be, people that have something valuable to give you and to whom you can give something back.

You slowly replace your friends with "better" ones that will bring you closer to your goals and will make you more of who you want to be, and you climb that ladder to the top. It'll take time, but it's also a far more guaranteed outcome versus suddenly jumping into a circle you don't yet belong in, where even if they'll accept you, chances are you'll change your mind and back out.

Re: You Are the Average of Your Five Closest Friends

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hello there fellow intovert. quick question, where did you measure your EQ?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=empathy+quotient+test Click the guardian one.

next time, just assume the question is about choosing which google result to follow. thanks

Re: You Are the Average of Your Five Closest Friends

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What? What was with the Eventbrite 'brogrammer' paragraph? You seem to say that 'marrying' social life and technology is a bad thing, but it's the segue into her (apparent) use of user groups and networking to further her career. Also: Bottom line: If the main topic of conversation you have with your friends is not how you can better yourself, you need to get new friends. Uh. No. If you drop universal statements like…

What is a brogrammer , anyway? I am imagining something like the Cheezburger "Bro" site, but sitting at a computer??

Via the inimitable dN0t: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi_AAqi0RZM

Re: You Are the Average of Your Five Closest Friends

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hello there fellow intovert. quick question, where did you measure your EQ?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=empathy+quotient+test Click the guardian one.

I think this is the kind of thing that you need a professional to do, rather than just doing some random internet test. (if you want the result to have any meaning that is).

Besides, why did you give the _lmgtfy_ link and then say which result to click? Why not just give the result directly?

Re: You Are the Average of Your Five Closest Friends

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Somewhat misleading headline I think given the content of the article but still a valid point. My question to you folks out there is this: I came across this statement sometime back and realized I need to change my friends if I am to better my situation. My friends, while good people, are not goal oriented and have for all intents and purposes given up. The people who I'd like to hang out with and who can help me gro…

I think you may want to take a close look at your actual desires and see if you really want to become goal-oriented. Our friends are usually a reflection of ourselves; if you're constantly not fitting in with goal-oriented people, perhaps that's a sign that you don't really want to be a goal-oriented person yourself.

I spent a few years after college thinking I would work really hard and found a famous startup and get rich. I did work really hard and found a startup, but it made me neither rich nor famous. But it did get me into Google, where I met lots of goal-oriented type-A people (the application process seems to select for that), and earned their professional respect and they earned mine. However, something always felt "off" when I tried hanging out socially with the more focused, hard-working folks, like I didn't really identify with them. And I was a lot less happy when working flat-out towards a goal than when poking my head into lots of corners.

I've come to realize lately that I'm not goal-oriented, and in fact don't give a shit about goals. Instead, I'm discovery-oriented: I like to understand how the world around me works, and maybe poke it a bit and see what happens. And most of my closest friends reflect that back to me.

There is unfortunately a mythology around startup founders that says they must be hyper-focused goal-oriented people. And it's true in a lot of cases: Bill Gates, Larry Page, Steve Jobs, Jeff Bezos, Larry Ellison, they all knew pretty much what they wanted to achieve and then focused on that until it came true. But there're good examples of discovery-oriented startup founders as well: Evan Williams, Paul Buchheit, Pierre Omidyar, Steve Wozniak, Sergey Brin. They usually end up taking a much more meandering path toward greatness (or partnering with a goal-oriented person), but they still get there.

Work with what you've got and figure out a path that harmonizes with that, rather than trying to change yourself. Trying to be someone you're not just doesn't work.

Re: You Are the Average of Your Five Closest Friends

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What? What was with the Eventbrite 'brogrammer' paragraph? You seem to say that 'marrying' social life and technology is a bad thing, but it's the segue into her (apparent) use of user groups and networking to further her career. Also: Bottom line: If the main topic of conversation you have with your friends is not how you can better yourself, you need to get new friends. Uh. No. If you drop universal statements like…

What is a brogrammer , anyway? I am imagining something like the Cheezburger "Bro" site, but sitting at a computer??

Popped collars, sunnies and fratboy antics; enthusiasm for 'Agile' entirely optional.

A primer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi_AAqi0RZM

(Yes, it's dumb.)

Re: You Are the Average of Your Five Closest Friends

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me having 26 seems a rather good score after reading yours.

I have no empathy for your sad feelings about your score.

sry, wrote 19 instead of 26. still not sure if I care about you caring. but I do care more than you I guess.
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