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Is IPv6 faster than IPv4?

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Re: Is IPv6 faster than IPv4?

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I still can't get away from this sensation that no matter how good IPv6 is, the ship has sailed. The inferior but indisputably cheaper technology won out over the technically superior one. VHS vs Betamax. Ethernet over Token Ring.

IPv6 is core infrastructure, not a silicon valley startup. Just like renewables, the switching of infrastruvture is londlger than 3x of average startup life expectancy

Re: Is IPv6 faster than IPv4?

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I still can't get away from this sensation that no matter how good IPv6 is, the ship has sailed. The inferior but indisputably cheaper technology won out over the technically superior one. VHS vs Betamax. Ethernet over Token Ring.

To have some data : https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html

While progress is slow, it is constant and we're reaching 40% of IPv6 availability in 2022, from pretty much 0% in 2010.

I'm confident we'll get there.

Re: Is IPv6 faster than IPv4?

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post #16

I still can't get away from this sensation that no matter how good IPv6 is, the ship has sailed. The inferior but indisputably cheaper technology won out over the technically superior one. VHS vs Betamax. Ethernet over Token Ring.

The original RFC came out in 1995, the modern RFC used today in 1998 - almost 25 years ago. When I was in college in 2012 (going through the Cisco NetAcad) they were preaching that our IPv6 future was "just around the corner". I am going on 10 years in network and security now, and I still don't see it. At least in the US, IPv4 is, and will remain, the dominant force. There are many reasons for this, but one of the b…

The US has a disproportionate chunk of IP addresses due to the original allocation. Where I live the lack is definitely being felt.

Re: Is IPv6 faster than IPv4?

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post #24

Anyone running v6 only and bridging to v4 on the edge?

Facebook, Deutche Telecom (Terastream), and other huge players I can't mention because NDA.

Any tips on how they're doing DNS64/NAT64? Last I looked, TAYGA was a way to do it with a linux edge router. Do folks use Google's DNS64 resolver?

Re: Is IPv6 faster than IPv4?

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I still can't get away from this sensation that no matter how good IPv6 is, the ship has sailed. The inferior but indisputably cheaper technology won out over the technically superior one. VHS vs Betamax. Ethernet over Token Ring.

Yet, while people keep saying that, ipv6 adoption only goes up every month. I'm having a hard time accepting "the ship has sailed" while my home outbound connections use ipv6 for more and more endpoints.

All the cloud provider VPCs seem inextriciably linked to IP4 config, which seems to work great. Maybe the low level infrastructure is IP6, but we dont operate at that level.

Re: Is IPv6 faster than IPv4?

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post #16

I still can't get away from this sensation that no matter how good IPv6 is, the ship has sailed. The inferior but indisputably cheaper technology won out over the technically superior one. VHS vs Betamax. Ethernet over Token Ring.

The original RFC came out in 1995, the modern RFC used today in 1998 - almost 25 years ago. When I was in college in 2012 (going through the Cisco NetAcad) they were preaching that our IPv6 future was "just around the corner". I am going on 10 years in network and security now, and I still don't see it. At least in the US, IPv4 is, and will remain, the dominant force. There are many reasons for this, but one of the b…

Came to make a similar comment, except that my "IPV6 is just around the corner" in college moment came in 2000.

I personally don't understand the holdup... I've seen so many forced upgrades as a consumer, and even more as a technology developer, that it seems like by now some group should be able to pick a cut-over date. (Examples: the 3G shutdown, TurboTax told me that my computer won't be supported next year, VHS tapes no longer being made, ect.)

Re: Is IPv6 faster than IPv4?

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At Netflix, we found in quite a few networks IPv6 had much better QoE than IPv4. In a limited number of cases, IPv6 was very broken. It was almost always equal or better.

Much smaller POV, but when I was dealing with ISP things in past I've found that on many networks v4 might have a nice, redundant blend while frequently v6 is some mix of HE+something or singlehomed HE, which disappoints me. But then the fact that their ports are basically unused other than for the usual G/YT/FB traffic makes the v6 pretty uncontended.

or when HE has bad/broken routes...
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