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Tech CEOs Want Every Worker to Have a Permanent, Public Job Performance File

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Re: Tech CEOs Want Every Worker to Have a Permanent, Public Job Performance File

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Post by CogitoCogito »

VirusNewbie wrote: post #18

As someone doing interviews now, I would actually prefer a 'bar' type test that employees can take every so often to show their technical skills. It could have all kinds of algorithmic questions, system design, practical application building and whatever else. It would be administered in person to prevent cheating (as much as possible), and companies could choose which scores to pay attention to. Meta doesn't find dy…

Or just hire fast and fire for fast. It’s too bad the US social net is so tied to jobs making that practically unviable. I would much prefer such a system to a long song and dance of any interviews.

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Post by LorenPechtel »

VirusNewbie wrote: post #18

As someone doing interviews now, I would actually prefer a 'bar' type test that employees can take every so often to show their technical skills. It could have all kinds of algorithmic questions, system design, practical application building and whatever else. It would be administered in person to prevent cheating (as much as possible), and companies could choose which scores to pay attention to. Meta doesn't find dy…

I'd love that. Make the test broad, but companies *must* provide a filter for what they are interested in that is limited to seeing perhaps 30% of your score--they have to pick what's actually important to them, not "everything". You can see how you would score against what they want. (They put a link to the testing site's website that sends the filter as a parameter. If you're logged in this is resolved as a score and shows you where you're strong/weak against their criteria.)

A fair test by competent testers, blinded against most discrimination. Of course they would hate it--they can't pretend it's not age discrimination anymore.

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Post by xmodem »

heisenbit wrote: post #11

And I would like to have a public file on each tech HR organization, complaint log, lawsuits and arbitration, feedback to CEO from investors and C suite payments and contract details.

not to mention salary ranges per team and per role

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Post by LorenPechtel »

cestith wrote: post #6

So a CEO hires a VP who hires a senior director who hires a director who hires a manager who changes specs and deadlines in the middle of projects all the time, and all the rank and file have that follow them as a black mark when they try to leave for a more sane company? No thanks.

Even worse, what happens when things go off the rails?

My former boss *used to* be good.

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Post by dghlsakjg »

alephxyz wrote: post #5
jeffwask wrote: post #2

Sounds great. They can go first by providing every candidate with a CEO profile detailing average turn over, NPS score, compensation management strategy, etc

>In the podcast, Youakim provides a seemingly harmless anecdote that illustrates how this works in practice. In response to Hoffman’s question about how he identifies outstanding candidates, Youakim recalled asking one interviewee to meet him for coffee at 7 a.m. on a Saturday as a test for “entitlement.” To decline to meet at such a time would, in Youakim’s mind, illustrate a lack of “going above and beyond.” The pe…

I can't believe this guy. Asking someone to do something useless just to see if they'll do it is TERRIBLE leadership.

Meeting a superior at 7 AM in your free time as a test to 1. see if you'll do something that is nakedly irrational and wasteful and 2. because a superior told you to is a very negative signal for companies that want to actually get shit done.

So yeah, I want to work for a company of people that are "entitled". Entitled to ask questions about what they are doing and why/if it is necessary. Entitled to say no to unexplained requests from superiors.

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Post by lin83 »

VirusNewbie wrote: post #18

As someone doing interviews now, I would actually prefer a 'bar' type test that employees can take every so often to show their technical skills. It could have all kinds of algorithmic questions, system design, practical application building and whatever else. It would be administered in person to prevent cheating (as much as possible), and companies could choose which scores to pay attention to. Meta doesn't find dy…

Isn't that what certification is? COMPTIA etc?

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Post by ultrarunner »

methehack wrote: post #15

I think if you get a bad performance review, they should probably just send you to prison.

Our HR director (still literally in school to become an HR director) implemented performance reviews on a goal-based platform. Practically, this meant that since everyone needed a goal, management needed to find faults for even competent employees in order to have goals to attain. Effectually, every performance review was then tainted and came across negatively. I felt so bad conducting mine for my team, and strongly considered resigning.

Stupid well-meaning decisions like these get carried out every day in business. These nuanced mistakes becoming permanent in some way would be the dystopic icing on a cake of bureaucratic nightmares.

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Post by twox2 »

CogitoCogito wrote: post #21
VirusNewbie wrote: post #18

As someone doing interviews now, I would actually prefer a 'bar' type test that employees can take every so often to show their technical skills. It could have all kinds of algorithmic questions, system design, practical application building and whatever else. It would be administered in person to prevent cheating (as much as possible), and companies could choose which scores to pay attention to. Meta doesn't find dy…

Or just hire fast and fire for fast. It’s too bad the US social net is so tied to jobs making that practically unviable. I would much prefer such a system to a long song and dance of any interviews.

Hire fast / fire fast has worked for some relatively lean teams that I've been on, but I can see it being hard to implement at mid-size and bigger companies where there's all kinds of red tape.

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Post by boeingUH60 »

bhahn wrote: post #3

The title is a bit sensationalist. Looks like two CEOs of smaller tech companies talked about this casually on a podcast, while the title implies a _much_ larger number of people.

It’s typical Vice Media and many other news sites whose revenues are dependent on drawing page views.

Take a very minor issue and amplify it loudly to make it seem much bigger than it is…draw in page views and make money.

I loathe this type of click-baiting…but on the bright side, the media companies that specialize in this stuff (Vice Media, BuzzFeed, et al) are often failing ones looking to salvage what’s left of their existence.

For example, Vice is drowning in debt to the tune of $1.1 billion[1]and is finding it impossible to sell for a price that’ll leave anything on the table for equity investors.

They tried the SPAC scam route [2] but I guess that didn’t work out for them.

1 - https://www.theinformation.com/articles/vice-media-makes-cos...

2 - https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/vice-media-raises-85-mil...

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