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Re: Sunsetting Atom

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Post by jaywalk »

Doctor_Fegg wrote: post #7

“Sunsetting” an open source project seems… unfitting? Hand it off to the community, look for new maintainers, donate it to the Apache Retirement Home for Veteran Projects, sure. But saying that you’ve decided to “sunset” or “archive” it, telling users to plan for their migration, seems counter to the notion that open source software forms part of a commons - something that Github, of all companies, should understand.

If the community actually cares enough, they can fork it and continue on with development.

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Post by red_phone »

civilized wrote: post #14
Doctor_Fegg wrote: post #7

“Sunsetting” an open source project seems… unfitting? Hand it off to the community, look for new maintainers, donate it to the Apache Retirement Home for Veteran Projects, sure. But saying that you’ve decided to “sunset” or “archive” it, telling users to plan for their migration, seems counter to the notion that open source software forms part of a commons - something that Github, of all companies, should understand.

GitHub is owned by Microsoft, the company that invented "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish". We should be counting down the days till they sunset VS Code to focus on VS Code "Pro".

I’m not sure the term has ever been applied to Microsoft’s own products…

Re: Sunsetting Atom

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Post by shusaku »

Night_Thastus wrote: post #11

It's a shame. Atom was my first love, taking me away from the pain of using GEdit to write code for my college courses. I loved finding new packages and tuning and tweaking it all just right. I'll miss it.

First love is a great description. I was 100% a vim guy for most of my career, but I tried out Atom and it ignited my love for the GUI

Re: Sunsetting Atom

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Post by antileet »

jstx1 wrote: post #2

It's what kickstarted Electron which eventually gave us VSCode, Slack, and lots of HN comments about memory usage. It also had the sweetest default theme of any code editor. RIP.

Electron was originally known as "Atom Shell"!

Re: Sunsetting Atom

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Post by mtkd »

shusaku wrote: post #10
mproud wrote: post #4

What recommendations do you all have for alternatives?

Sublime I guess. I made the switch awhile back because if just how much snappier it is, but it’s sad to see Atom go with all its nice add-ons…

I moved from Sublime to Atom ...

"Atom community involvement has declined significantly"

Probably because it works well enough, some tools don't need endless enhancing

Re: Sunsetting Atom

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Post by jonathaneunice »

I like Atom and use it occasionally. But I use VS Code day-in and day-out. The decision makes sense.

If VS Code were not exceptionally good, Atom might have had more of an opportunity. But "yet another good option" is not enough to drive investment, sustain a community, and spin an ecosystem.

Re: Sunsetting Atom

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Post by dkarl »

red_phone wrote: post #22
civilized wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GitHub is owned by Microsoft, the company that invented "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish". We should be counting down the days till they sunset VS Code to focus on VS Code "Pro".

I’m not sure the term has ever been applied to Microsoft’s own products…

They embrace, extend, and extinguish products they don't make money on, so that people are forced to use products that they do make money on.

Re: Sunsetting Atom

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Post by civilized »

red_phone wrote: post #22
civilized wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GitHub is owned by Microsoft, the company that invented "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish". We should be counting down the days till they sunset VS Code to focus on VS Code "Pro".

I’m not sure the term has ever been applied to Microsoft’s own products…

Atom was developed before the acquisition. Which brings us to the second proud tradition of the tech titans, acquiring companies to end the products the acquirer doesn't like.

Re: Sunsetting Atom

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Post by Dave3of5 »

I remember this being released and this was a concern at the time that the project would be abandoned. If I remember this it was mostly a concern as Github as a company should focus on their main product which is not an editor and that there are many existing editor that do it better.

I suspect that what actually killed this is the acquisition of Github by Microsoft and the fact that Microsoft are pushing VSCode very hard. Dev tooling is something Microsoft had a lot of experience (and failures) in and it was always an uphill battle.

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