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Re: Create macOS or Linux virtual machines

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Post by adrianmonk »

gigatexal wrote: post #9

"We'll also explore how you can install and run full Linux distributions on Apple silicon, and share how you can take advantage of Rosetta 2 to run x86-64 Linux binaries." That sounds like running Linux on bare metal...

It's annoyingly ambiguous. The "on Apple silicon" and "full Linux" strongly suggest it's bare metal. (Why say it that way if it's not?)

But the title is "Create macOS or Linux virtual machines", which strongly suggests it's not bare metal.

But sometimes people write titles that only hit the biggest highlights, and the title may not mention everything that's in the video, so it's not impossible that it's Mac VMs, Linux VMs, and Linux bare metal.

Re: Create macOS or Linux virtual machines

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Post by CodeBeater »

buran77 wrote: post #19
paraboul wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, Asahi Linux is a thing

The title and the Apple domain made it look for a second like an officially supported solution to run Linux directly on Apple silicon. This would have been so much more than Asahi Linux. The title should have been "Create macOS or Linux virtual machines" but I guess OP chose something that sounds more attractive and "votable".

Well, not to bash the OP, but a "votable" title does distracts us from a conversation about the actual changes to Mac OS.

Re: Create macOS or Linux virtual machines

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Post by mort96 »

seemaze wrote: post #17

I'd love a supported and streamlined option to provision native macOS VM's. Currently other solutions leave much to be desired.

UTM doesn't leave that much to be desired does it? I mean something first-party would be nice, but it's not like we're in a terrible state as it is...

Re: Create macOS or Linux virtual machines

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Post by drusepth »

olalonde wrote: post #24
tomComb wrote: post #7

I was very excited, very briefly, by the title of this post. Now very disappointed.

Opposite reaction here.

This looks like it's just running Linux VMs as a guest in macOS, right? Was that not already possible on macOS, or just not possible on the M1/M2 chips?

Re: Create macOS or Linux virtual machines

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Post by lynguist »

1024core wrote: post #8

What about Windows? Can I run Windows x86 in a VM on M2?

I tried Windows 10 and Windows 11 on a Mac M1 with UTM and Windows 11 with Parallels.

I found that Windows 11 ran much better than Windows 10 (it gets stuck) on UTM and I found that Parallels ran much better than UTM.

So, I’d say yes.

Re: Create macOS or Linux virtual machines

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Post by olalonde »

drusepth wrote: post #27
olalonde wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Opposite reaction here.

This looks like it's just running Linux VMs as a guest in macOS, right? Was that not already possible on macOS, or just not possible on the M1/M2 chips?

It was not possible on M1/M2 chips (aside from a commercial solution, Parallels, which is €99.99/yr).

Re: Create macOS or Linux virtual machines

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Post by SmellTheGlove »

tomComb wrote: post #7

I was very excited, very briefly, by the title of this post. Now very disappointed.

Same, but I re-read the text:

Learn how you can use the Virtualization framework to quickly create virtual machines on your Mac. We'll show you how to create a virtual Mac and quickly test changes to your app in an isolated environment. We'll also explore how you can install and run full Linux distributions on Apple silicon, and share how you can take advantage of Rosetta 2 to run x86-64 Linux binaries.

(emphasis mine) the way that bit reads suggests installing on bare metal too.

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