All the BSL/SSPL ones shouldn't be in an "open source" section. Just change the heading to "source available" or put them with the "vendors".
Author of the blog post in question here. Let me clarify: they shouldn't be there because they're not OSI-approved, right? Just wanna get your point here. (While I understand that BSL/SSPL lack certain liberties, I deemed it okay to mark them as "open source" for the purposes of this post.)
DeWitt Clause, or can you benchmark %database% and get away with it
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Author of the blog post in question here. Let me clarify: they shouldn't be there because they're not OSI-approved, right? Just wanna get your point here. (While I understand that BSL/SSPL lack certain liberties, I deemed it okay to mark them as "open source" for the purposes of this post.)
Not just lack of OSI approval, they're attempting to redefine the long accepted meaning of open source to include their new licenses. They want the goodwill of being "open source" without the obligations. The only sorts of licenses that have consistently been considered open source are either copyleft licenses like the GPL and do whatever the hell you want licenses like MIT and Apache. Do whatever you want... unless…
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#23Re: DeWitt Clause, or can you benchmark %database% and get away with it
#24If you want to benchmark for internal reasons you don't publish the results and nobody knows. If you want to make a service to the community, run your benchmarks, download Tor and publish the results anonymously. I don't see what the big deal is? Is this only limited to marketing claims where you post it on your company's website?
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#25It would be quite refreshing if we could have a story in which Oracle are the good guys for once. I'm sure they are at least purchasing some modern-day 'indulgences' by - for instance - donating food to starving north korean elites?
However, just like AWS, Azure, and GCloud, their admin UI is complicated, slow, frustrating and full of invented acronyms and quirks.
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#26It would be quite refreshing if we could have a story in which Oracle are the good guys for once. I'm sure they are at least purchasing some modern-day 'indulgences' by - for instance - donating food to starving north korean elites?
https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2020/10/07/North-Kor...
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#27Re: DeWitt Clause, or can you benchmark %database% and get away with it
#28If you want to benchmark for internal reasons you don't publish the results and nobody knows. If you want to make a service to the community, run your benchmarks, download Tor and publish the results anonymously. I don't see what the big deal is? Is this only limited to marketing claims where you post it on your company's website?
How likely is it that one takes an anonymous benchmark published by a noname researcher seriously?
Have you met programmers?
Re: DeWitt Clause, or can you benchmark %database% and get away with it
#29If you want to benchmark for internal reasons you don't publish the results and nobody knows. If you want to make a service to the community, run your benchmarks, download Tor and publish the results anonymously. I don't see what the big deal is? Is this only limited to marketing claims where you post it on your company's website?
How likely is it that one takes an anonymous benchmark published by a noname researcher seriously?
Why would you assume people generally do background/credential checks on researchers?
Sure its nice to have it on phoronix or something, but its by no means a deal-breaker if it isn't.
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#30Interesting. As a SaaS vendor, we do not allow performance testing of the production system. Because, you know, just casually saturating production resources can become very iffy for strange and unexpected reasons. And you will always be able to saturate a system, or a subsystem of the subsystem of the system. However, we have provided bigger customers, or customer willing to pay for it, with performance testing envi…
To be honest, if a cloud vendor has technical problems with someone running a few benchmarks then that would make me very wary of said cloud vendor. What's the difference between a "benchmark" and "using all resources I paid for" anyway?