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Kagi search and Orion browser enter public beta

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Re: Kagi search and Orion browser enter public beta

#21
I was going to say that unfortunately Vimium, Dark Reader, and 1Password support are non-negotiable, but the browser evidently has its own built-in dark mode, and they claim to support both Chrome and Firefox extensions as well?

I'm happy to provide non-Chromium traffic from either Firefox or something else; I'm increasingly running into things (often corporatey things) that only work in Chrome.

It also sounds like they use your icloud for syncing things like bookmarks and sharing tabs and use the built-in password manager, so if you're Apple-only this is a great fit. I hope the tab sharing will be more reliable than Firefox's has been.

Waiting until I can brew install, but looks promising.

Re: Kagi search and Orion browser enter public beta

#25
post #19

"... for Apple users" would have gone a long way > Orion is an alternative browser for Apple users https://browser.kagi.com/faq.html#goal

I agree. I dislike the tendency in Apple circles to just simply imply that things only run on mac. It’s like: I know it’s obvious to you, the software author, but it’s not obvious to me, the reader. Even though I use mac sometimes, I mostly don’t use software that isn’t cross platform.

Re: Kagi search and Orion browser enter public beta

#27
post #21

I was going to say that unfortunately Vimium, Dark Reader, and 1Password support are non-negotiable, but the browser evidently has its own built-in dark mode, and they claim to support both Chrome and Firefox extensions as well? I'm happy to provide non-Chromium traffic from either Firefox or something else; I'm increasingly running into things (often corporatey things) that only work in Chrome. It also sounds like t…

I just tried installing Vimium and it works well. Same with uBlock origin and Bitwarden.

Orion warns that the support for web extensions is experimental. But this so far I love the idea of this browser.

Re: Kagi search and Orion browser enter public beta

#28
It's refreshing to see more stuff using WebKit and not Blink / Chromium! Will definitely give this a go

/EDIT: this looks, feels and acts exactly like Safari. Feels like I'm just using Safari with a little bit of extra on the top, is that what this is or is everything re-implemented to look like Safari?

Also sad to see Safari extensions not supported. It's super cool to have chrome/firefox extension support, but Safari has some really nice things as well

> Why use Orion instead of Safari?

> Safari is truly one of the best browsers you can use on macOS, and we’re grateful to Apple for creating such a solid foundation. By basing Orion on Safari’s tech stack, then adding productivity enhancements such as built-in ad-blocking, Orion can provide users with exactly what they need.

> You want speed? Orion is currently the fastest Mac browser out there. We built a snappy, lightweight browser around Safari’s WebKit engine to accelerate your web experience.

> Orion is fast

> What about privacy? Orion is a true zero-telemetry browser, with a powerful built-in ad and tracking blocker. Even with its default settings, Orion offers the highest possible privacy protection on the web.

> And extensions! Unlike Safari, Orion has native support for both Chrome and Firefox extensions. This gives our users access to the largest extensions ecosystem in the world. With Orion, you can one-click install your favorite extensions directly from the web.

/EDIT2: Extension support is still a bit wonky. Sometimes the chrome version works, sometimes it doesn't and I have to use the Firefox variant, sometimes neither work

Looks very promising though

Re: Kagi search and Orion browser enter public beta

#30
post #24

I am not sure if it's been answered somewhere before. Why Webkit? Seems like a bad idea to use an engine that is currently running the "new IE"

If you compare the current vs dev versions on https://caniuse.com/ you can see that Safari is catching up. Besides, I consider Chrome the modern IE because it keeps trying to subvert standards to hold on to its monopoly.
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