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Re: What are the downsides of being a single founder (ie. not having a co-founder)?

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Top 10 Reasons for Being a Single Founder 10. You spend 0 time debating technical issues that have already been decided. 9. You spend 0 time refereeing personal differences among the other co-founders. 8. You spend 0 time wondering why they can't keep up with you, or why they're doing something other than what you have already agreed upon. 7. You learn every part of your business. You never worry what's happening out…

10. Debating isn't time wasted unless the participants are closed minded. When working with others I respect, I have always found that both sides are willing to defect to the other side, they just want to make sure their side is considered first.

9. This is equally avoidable by finding mature people to work with.

8. I often fall into the trap of thinking others are not keeping up with me, but it usually is just me being arrogant. If you can't take advantage of someone, its usually a management issue. Some people are not worth managing though (too little benefit for time invested), again emphasizing the importance of choosing a good co-founder... obviously not always easy to do.

7. The "go at it alone" approach doesn't scale. We can look at examples like the founder of PlentyOfFish who appears to have done it alone, but what he did was to essentially ignore certain areas he didn't feel like dealing with, and things worked out well, but they could have very easily gone the other direction.

6. You can indeed take advantage of other people and use them without any payment, but you are still taking advantage of them (you're getting something, they are not). Because they won't be fully invested in your company, your practices, or your product (and they won't be, because they are just being used), the quality of their advice will suffer because they will be talking about generic situations instead of your specific one.

5. So can founders with partners. For free.

4. But woah, watch out for those taxis.

3. Look honey, I know I have been busy recently, and I'm still too busy to spend time with you, but you're going to be have a lot of money soon. No, no, no, I don't think you're a prostitute. Wait, no, wait, no, NOT THE CAT...

2. This is really important, and one of the reasons people like working for startups in general, but not really single founder specific.

1. And it may eventually be worth something :)

0. Good list, you put up some interesting things to think about.

Re: What are the downsides of being a single founder (ie. not having a co-founder)?

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I am a single founder. Here at Y Startup I have found that the predominant opinion is that anyone over 30 is, or should be DEAD. In the real world I find that if your not under 30 (me 48), doing a startup with a co-founder is not likely. Young people are intimidated by your age (discrimination?), and most older people have responsibilities beyond themselves which prohibit taking serious risk. If your like me and have…

Are you really good at everything you need to create a startup? If it's a web startup, I'd say the FIRST team you need is a designer and a few programmers. Nothing else.

So, as a single founder, are you doing everything? Or are you using the "bones" you've made to hire employees? If you have employees, then you really aren't benefiting that much from being a "single" -- you have a team, they are just compensated and motivated in a different way.

In my experience, a person who feels like a co-founder is a billion percent more motivated than an employee or consultant. Given this (and given that you need more than one skillset to build a good startup) why wouldn't you trade some equity to increase the motivation of your team? Surely this would raise your chances for success (which, as we all know, are generally pretty low!).

Unless you are one of those mythical people who are good at everything, you are handicapping yourself. And it's a pretty well-researched fact that two smart people are more effective problem solvers together than one genius.

But, at 48, that may be be necessary... As you say, who wants to partner with an old guy? grin

For the record, I am a 35 year old guy who has also made his bones selling two startups (just about to launch #3). Every time (including this one) I have have made damn sure that I had co-founders that had EQUAL partnership (when I could have gotten away with giving them minority partnership each time).

Re: What are the downsides of being a single founder (ie. not having a co-founder)?

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post #16

Top 10 Reasons for Being a Single Founder 10. You spend 0 time debating technical issues that have already been decided. 9. You spend 0 time refereeing personal differences among the other co-founders. 8. You spend 0 time wondering why they can't keep up with you, or why they're doing something other than what you have already agreed upon. 7. You learn every part of your business. You never worry what's happening out…

"1. You keep all of your equity. All of it."

This is my favorite. All of your equity! You, as a REALLY smart entrepreneur, have a minuscule chance of success. 99% of the time, all of your equity is going to add up to nothing. If you could increase your paltry 1% chance by bringing on a co-founder (which virtually every experienced person says that you should), why the hell wouldn't you?

Jealously guarding your equity when it's worth nothing seems silly to me.

Re: What are the downsides of being a single founder (ie. not having a co-founder)?

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Ohh the dreaded "single founder thread" Let the good times roll on this one. Ok I'm a single founder, when I read PG's essays about singles, I experienced a wave of insecurity on my part which lasted approximately 3-4 months. Whatever experiences I had back then could more likely reflect the experiences felt by other single founders here. Most YCer's know the game and how it's played. We all know to a certain degree…

Lol about the "dreaded single founder thread". I don't keep up with YC News everyday, so after I posted I figured that this topic has definitely come up before. Oh well. Maybe people have changed their views since the last time it was posted and have interesting things to share.

Yeah, it seems like a good idea to just start building alone if there is no one else to do it with. People can be added later.

Re: What are the downsides of being a single founder (ie. not having a co-founder)?

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post #16

Top 10 Reasons for Being a Single Founder 10. You spend 0 time debating technical issues that have already been decided. 9. You spend 0 time refereeing personal differences among the other co-founders. 8. You spend 0 time wondering why they can't keep up with you, or why they're doing something other than what you have already agreed upon. 7. You learn every part of your business. You never worry what's happening out…

Nice. I like your list. I forgot about reasons 9 and 10. I've known some pretty opinionated people who I would imagine would be very hard to do collaborative work with.

Re: What are the downsides of being a single founder (ie. not having a co-founder)?

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I've done both.

I started Swell Technology in 1999, ran it for seven years as the only stock holder. I made a pretty good living, worked on interesting problems, drove a 350Z, and had an office overlooking the corner of 6th and Congress in downtown Austin.

Now I'm a 47.5% stock holder in Virtualmin, Inc. (YC has 5%, and my co-founder has the other 47.5%). I work out of the second bedroom in a rental house a couple blocks away from downtown Mountain View, CA, make barely enough money to cover the rent, and don't own a car. But, having a co-founder is a still lot better. I fully expect that in a year, the success I had with my previous company will be dwarfed by what we can achieve with the new one, and a huge percentage of that is being able to share the load.

I worked all the time with my old company. For seven years running I never took a real vacation. The sound of a ringing phone makes my stomach hurt due to the constant support calls with my old business (so now, I don't have a phone...we have a bug tracker and public forums to help customers).

It's entirely possible to start a company solo. But there are some things you'll want to avoid. If you see yourself in any of the following situations, it is time to change your business:

1. More business than you can handle solo, but not enough revenue to hire help. You're in a bad business or not charging enough. Change something.

2. The mundane (taxes, paperwork, legal compliance, sales or support calls) is taking more than 25% of your time, in order to make ends meet. Pretty much the same reasons as in 1.

3. You realize that the "right price" on your products is such that you'll never be big enough to hire employees, even if 50% of the available market buys what you're selling. If you can't expand the available market, then you're in a bad market.

With a co-founder a lot of these things are more immediately obvious...it's easy to keep plugging along when only one paycheck has to be cut each month, and you can tighten your belt one more notch. With two or more, the math adds up, and one of you realizes "Hey, we're never going to build a business at this rate. We need to change things."

So, sure, there is a possibility that you'll be Markus Frind or Joshua Schacter. If the idea is really good, and you execute well, you can make great things solo. But the odds are against it.

Re: What are the downsides of being a single founder (ie. not having a co-founder)?

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post #16

Top 10 Reasons for Being a Single Founder 10. You spend 0 time debating technical issues that have already been decided. 9. You spend 0 time refereeing personal differences among the other co-founders. 8. You spend 0 time wondering why they can't keep up with you, or why they're doing something other than what you have already agreed upon. 7. You learn every part of your business. You never worry what's happening out…

10. Debating isn't time wasted unless the participants are closed minded. When working with others I respect, I have always found that both sides are willing to defect to the other side, they just want to make sure their side is considered first. 9. This is equally avoidable by finding mature people to work with. 8. I often fall into the trap of thinking others are not keeping up with me, but it usually is just me be…

Thanks for the feedback. This list was made partially in jest, but 100% from experience.

In my first startup with 3 co-founders, I wasted (yes, wasted!) 50% of my time on numbers 9 and 10. It got so bad, I was afraid of what our customers would witness. And these were seasoned business people in their 20's, 30's and 40's.

8. Good point.

7. I disagree. I am still stunned at what I can accomplish with today's tools vs. 10 years ago. With time and money. And the more I code, the better I get. Every new project I write takes half the code of the previous one.

6. Really disagree. My experience is that the provider of the advice THANKS ME for the opportunity to advise. There are people out there dying for the opportunity to mentor for free; they just don't find many chances. Their payback is watching you succeed with their advice. They can't buy that.

4. I hate this one. I really do. People come to me looking to invest and then tell me my biggest problem is that I may get hit by a bus. Funny thing, I have never had a customer bring this one up. The next time I hear the bus remark, I'll just jump out a 6 story window. That'll show them.

3. Leave my cat out of it.

1. First start-up alone. We'll see. We'll see.

Re: What are the downsides of being a single founder (ie. not having a co-founder)?

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post #16

Top 10 Reasons for Being a Single Founder 10. You spend 0 time debating technical issues that have already been decided. 9. You spend 0 time refereeing personal differences among the other co-founders. 8. You spend 0 time wondering why they can't keep up with you, or why they're doing something other than what you have already agreed upon. 7. You learn every part of your business. You never worry what's happening out…

"1. You keep all of your equity. All of it." This is my favorite. All of your equity! You, as a REALLY smart entrepreneur, have a minuscule chance of success. 99% of the time, all of your equity is going to add up to nothing. If you could increase your paltry 1% chance by bringing on a co-founder (which virtually every experienced person says that you should), why the hell wouldn't you? Jealously guarding your equity…

"99% of the time, all of your equity is going to add up to nothing"

I think that's true no matter how many co-founders you have.

"Jealously guarding your equity when it's worth nothing seems silly to me."

Sorry you see it that way. I'd gladly accelerate my business with the right partners. In the meantime, I'll just keep on coding and selling until I find the right co-founder(s). Nothing jealous about it.

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