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doesn't seem like Rust is a silver bullet for preventing crypto hacks
(Ethereum) Smart Contracts are usually written in Solidity, not Rust...
Solana uses Rust/C++ to compile to an ebpf target, fwiw.
Most of Rust job offers are in crypto
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Re: Most of Rust job offers are in crypto
#22It would be funny if the crypto bubble burst and took the rust bubble with it.
That would be really sad, I’m not sure why you would say something like that. You can express dislike about (part of) the rust community but why would you wish Rust to lose traction? Even if you don’t like or care about the language it is a fantastic addition to the world of programming languages (even just from a research/academic/intellectual point of view), and push for a healthy competition in the world of system programming, something that benefits all of us.
Re: Most of Rust job offers are in crypto
#23Maybe because most of the new "tech" startups/jobs -- that care more about language than other startup areas -- are in "crypto"/Web3?
P.S. Also, as a cryptographer: writing "high level" cryptography code in anything besides Rust is an unnecessary pain honestly. It just makes the work saner and manageable. Think of it like writing C with another set of eyes looking over you for mistakes.
Re: Most of Rust job offers are in crypto
#24It would be funny if the crypto bubble burst and took the rust bubble with it.
> It would be funny if the crypto bubble burst and took the rust bubble with it.
It's probably not likely at all. While Rust's correctness guarantees through ownership checking can be approximated by other programming languages through garbage collectors, it is not a widely understood fact that Rust mutability checking is also a great tool for multi-threaded programming, very challenging to get right even by veteran programmers. On top of that, Rust not only features syntax that's quite modern and ergonomic (analogous to Swift) with elements of functional programming, but Rust also offers modern abstraction-based programming constructs through traits (analogous to Swift Protocol-Oriented Programming). Even the ever C-advocating Linus Torvalds has already agreed to allow Rust as a second language within the Linux kernel. IMHO, Rust is not just a bubble - it will probably only keep growing in popularity.
Re: Most of Rust job offers are in crypto
#25First off, this is bullshit.
# job advertisements for 'rust' in the title != Company's searching for Rust Developers
# job advertisements for rust != # of developers using rust for non crypto shit.
I'd just like to point out those facts for people devolving the conversation in to all crypto is rust and rust is crypto and they will burn together.
Also, how about the fact that fast, concurrent and safe is exactly what the blockchain needs? Everyone who's coded in solidity (Javascript) or vyper (Python) for the ETH ecosystem knows that the constraints of the blockchain show those languages flaws(Difference?).
Re: Most of Rust job offers are in crypto
#26First off, this is bullshit. # job advertisements for 'rust' in the title != Company's searching for Rust Developers # job advertisements for rust != # of developers using rust for non crypto shit. I'd just like to point out those facts for people devolving the conversation in to all crypto is rust and rust is crypto and they will burn together. Also, how about the fact that fast, concurrent and safe is exactly what…
Co-author here.
I think 'bullshit' is a little of an overstatement. I agree it's not a definite answer at all but I think it's quite an approximation of how the job market in Rust looks like.
Moreover, it's not a rant against it, we addressed a common belief within the Rust community without stating a judgement whether it's good or bad thing.
Re: Most of Rust job offers are in crypto
#27It would be funny if the crypto bubble burst and took the rust bubble with it.
Pretty unlikely since Rust isn't a bubble and it's used in way more places than just crypto. Those places just don't advertise heavily on jobs boards.
Re: Most of Rust job offers are in crypto
#28Unfortunately. Similar to Haskell. While with Rust it can be justified by its novelty and status as a meme, Haskell has been here since 1990. Maybe it's because it's hard to attract talent in that space without offering niche, cool tools that are hard to find elsewhere?
I think Haskell jobs aren't common because Haskell isn't widely used. Rust is much more widely used but it's also much newer so most uses are from people already in companies starting new projects. Most of those projects are probably still minor and haven't got to the point of needing whole new employees to work just on them.
Where I work we started a fairly big Rust project a couple of years ago and only recently put "Rust" on a job advert.
Re: Most of Rust job offers are in crypto
#29Good. Finally one positive impact crypto has on the world.
After it all crashes, hopefully these rust coders will find their way into traditional finance and tech and displace C++.
Re: Most of Rust job offers are in crypto
#30First off, this is bullshit. # job advertisements for 'rust' in the title != Company's searching for Rust Developers # job advertisements for rust != # of developers using rust for non crypto shit. I'd just like to point out those facts for people devolving the conversation in to all crypto is rust and rust is crypto and they will burn together. Also, how about the fact that fast, concurrent and safe is exactly what…
Co-author here. I think 'bullshit' is a little of an overstatement. I agree it's not a definite answer at all but I think it's quite an approximation of how the job market in Rust looks like. Moreover, it's not a rant against it, we addressed a common belief within the Rust community without stating a judgement whether it's good or bad thing.
Sorry man, I didn't have my morning coffee yet.
Well researched and great job lol.
I guess i was railing against the hate on rust in the comments section, which in actuality had nothing to do with your analysis.