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Why aren't fentanyl test strips more widespread? (2021)

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Re: Why aren't fentanyl test strips more widespread? (2021)

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Fentanyl test strips are illegal in Florida, the legislature refused to decriminalize them for some reason.

At best, they're cowards who don't want to face ads that imply they condone drug use; at worst, they simply refuse to make it safer for anyone with a drug problem because they see them as human detritus.

Re: Why aren't fentanyl test strips more widespread? (2021)

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Here in Canada there is exception to the federal drug law, for the purposes of analysis and testing. Some public health departments run testing programs. In practice, I can get GC/MS done without cost for a street drug at a hospital lab by dropping off samples in a vial at my local pharmacy.

As far as I can tell, this program is not widely known. It shouldn't be too hard to scale up the pharmacy collection side, and make it available in pretty much every community. I don't know how to convince people to actually use it, though.

Re: Why aren't fentanyl test strips more widespread? (2021)

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The real question we should be asking is why can't these poor people get access to proper medicine and treatment? Instead they have to resort to playing Russian roulette every time they use. Decriminalisation and regulation are the biggest harm reduction measures that could be taken and it would have the added bonus of freeing up space in the prisons and reducing the power of the cartels. There wouldn't be a fent pro…

> why can't these poor people get access to proper medicine and treatment? Maybe the Government doesn't like the type of people that get addicted to drugs... a friend of mine just died this week from overdose... maybe from Fentanyl but I don't know.

There's people out there whose opinions are that addiction is a problem that "eventually solves itself". When I first heard that I just tried to change topics as quick as possible, it was just a conversational dead end. I still don't know what to say.

Re: Why aren't fentanyl test strips more widespread? (2021)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> why can't these poor people get access to proper medicine and treatment? Maybe the Government doesn't like the type of people that get addicted to drugs... a friend of mine just died this week from overdose... maybe from Fentanyl but I don't know.

There's people out there whose opinions are that addiction is a problem that "eventually solves itself". When I first heard that I just tried to change topics as quick as possible, it was just a conversational dead end. I still don't know what to say.

What we need is the scientific community to come together like they did for Covid vaccines... we need an addiction vaccine for drugs and alcohol...

It probably killed a lot more people then Covid-19...

Re: Why aren't fentanyl test strips more widespread? (2021)

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Test strips are inconvenient to use. You have to mix you drugs in water to test them, which means if you want to snort your drugs you need to plan ahead far enough to dry them back out again.

If you don't mix the correct ratio of drugs to water its very easy to get false positive (for amphetamines and mdma) or a false negative with others.

Also, frankly, it makes the whole experience less sexy and fun. I know its a dumb reason but its true.

Re: Why aren't fentanyl test strips more widespread? (2021)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> why can't these poor people get access to proper medicine and treatment? Maybe the Government doesn't like the type of people that get addicted to drugs... a friend of mine just died this week from overdose... maybe from Fentanyl but I don't know.

There's people out there whose opinions are that addiction is a problem that "eventually solves itself". When I first heard that I just tried to change topics as quick as possible, it was just a conversational dead end. I still don't know what to say.

Vladimof: Unfortunately it's not only a physical ailment. It's a complex mental and emotional issue, too. Hard to concoct a vaccine targeting all 3 axes with current technology levels.

Re: Why aren't fentanyl test strips more widespread? (2021)

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In the US and Canada: not really. In other countries, yes. Australia's heroin supply is still basically just heroin, and extremely high purity, even on the street, interestingly. While fentanyl does exist here, it's not that common. I cannot give a good reason as to why. It's interesting.

I'm not saying this is the reason, but out of curiosity: does Australia's drug agency/agencies place as strong of an emphasis on border interdiction? A large part of the US's drug policy emphasizes "flashy" seizures of large amounts of drugs at the border, which has incentivized smugglers to pursue more potent (and therefore more compact) alternatives.

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Re: Why aren't fentanyl test strips more widespread? (2021)

#29
post #9

The real question we should be asking is why can't these poor people get access to proper medicine and treatment? Instead they have to resort to playing Russian roulette every time they use. Decriminalisation and regulation are the biggest harm reduction measures that could be taken and it would have the added bonus of freeing up space in the prisons and reducing the power of the cartels. There wouldn't be a fent pro…

I have my suspicions that prior American governments intended (with full knowledge) for the cartels to get more powerful (by means of increasing corruption and letting only those kinds of crime-willing people to service the outlawed black markets)

I recall reading about an economist who based on studying the failure of the prohibition, tried to warn about the futility of 'war on drugs'; from this I thought that if some economist knew it'd fail, so could the government have known....

Re: Why aren't fentanyl test strips more widespread? (2021)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not saying this is the reason, but out of curiosity: does Australia's drug agency/agencies place as strong of an emphasis on border interdiction? A large part of the US's drug policy emphasizes "flashy" seizures of large amounts of drugs at the border, which has incentivized smugglers to pursue more potent (and therefore more compact) alternatives.

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Thank you, I'm aware of that. That has very little bearing on whether there's a policy of border interdiction or not, since borders include things like ports and international airports.
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