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Pedal Me bans staff riders from wearing helmets for safety reasons

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Re: Pedal Me bans staff riders from wearing helmets for safety reasons

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From [the tweet], "People that are taking risks that are sufficient that they feel they need to wear helmets are not welcome to work for us" [the tweet]: https://twitter.com/pedalmeapp/status/1489594692857647113?s=...

Riding on roads isn't like mountain biking where you mostly control the amount of risk you take on. Riding on roads puts you at the mercy of other people's choices. I feel the need to wear a helmet anytime I'm riding on a road for that reason.

Re: Pedal Me bans staff riders from wearing helmets for safety reasons

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IIRC it is studied that cars behave more dangerously around bikers with helmets while they give a wide berth to unhelmeted bikers.

There was one study about that, which was... not very robust science. It relied on self-report of the biker (and if I remember correctly, it was just a single one, so not enough data).

Fair enough, although it relied on video data, not self report, and included over 2300 cars. Perhaps it would have been different for different cyclists.

Here is a study investigating this methodology of studying car behavior and ultimately concluding it is useful: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S00014...

Re: Pedal Me bans staff riders from wearing helmets for safety reasons

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How dare those guys drive on roads with cars! This seems insane. Even if the data supported this, anyone from the PR department should have seen how much bad press this generates from a mile away.

From their point of view, it's like if a delivery company banned drivers from installing roll-cages and racing harnesses - the initial question should be, why on earth do you think you need that?

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At my scale, I know that when I go mountain biking, when I have an helmet, I go faster and take much more risk than when I don't have an helmet. I don't have any data point about road biking, because I never wear a helmet. But thinking about it, I would also take more risks with more protective equipments

But what is your overall safety. Like can you still get seriously injured being careful not wearing a helmet

Can you still get seriously injured being careful wearing a helmet?

Re: Pedal Me bans staff riders from wearing helmets for safety reasons

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IIRC it is studied that cars behave more dangerously around bikers with helmets while they give a wide berth to unhelmeted bikers.

"it is studied" Source please? This sounds like absolute bullshit. I've known so many people who have been killed or permanently disfigured because they didn't wear a helmet while biking in a large city. Cars don't give a fuck about us.

https://psyarxiv.com/nxw2k

To be clear, I am not saying that it is safer to ride without a helmet, just an interesting study of behavior.

I get that you know people who are harmed by cars (as do I), but your appeal to pathos & anecdote should not have a bearing here.

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