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The new and upgraded Framework Laptop

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Re: The new and upgraded Framework Laptop

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Post by nrp »

travisby wrote: post #12
nrp wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In use battery life is largely the same, though Intel has added some additional features with 12th Gen Intel Core that can improve in-use power consumption in some scenarios. The main optimizations we were able to land were in standby power consumption. For Windows users, this means longer Modern Standby before going into Hibernate. For Linux, more importantly since hibernate is atypical, it means being able to leave…

The standby performance was what kept me from buying a previous gen frame.work despite loving the mission and wanting to support y'all. I was holding my time until either the efficiency cores came along (if that has any improvement in standby? I'm not even sure) or if you ended up making AMD where I believe S3 sleep states still exist. Very exciting to hear there's an improvement in this generation. Is that improveme…

This is a combination of hardware and firmware improvements by both Intel on 12th Gen Intel Core generally and us on the Framework Laptop specifically. This is with s0ix standby, and we see ~0.4%/hour typically in Fedora 36 on 5.17.6 with the settings in our setup guide: .https://guides.frame.work/Guide/Fedora+36+Installation+on+th...

Re: The new and upgraded Framework Laptop

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Post by [deleted] »

rocqua wrote: post #13
nrp wrote: post #2

I'm happy to answer any questions around this! We've been working on this since update since we launched the product last year, so we're excited to be able to share it today.

I see there are only DDR4 options. Presumably if you bring your own memory, that also has to be DDR4. Why no DDR5?

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Re: The new and upgraded Framework Laptop

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Post by nrp »

CarVac wrote: post #15
nrp wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We've gotten requests from a couple of ortholinear keyboard makers on it. With our current Input Cover design, it is technically possible to do, but would have fixed costs that would be extremely difficult to amortize over the number of units we could realistically sell. Because of that, we don't have any active plans for this.

Is there any way a hobbyist can make a custom one that would fit?

You can certainly try! Realistically it would probably need to be CNCed from aluminum, as plastic that thin wouldn't be sufficiently rigid.

Re: The new and upgraded Framework Laptop

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Post by sbelskie »

mavili wrote: post #18
nrp wrote: post #2

I'm happy to answer any questions around this! We've been working on this since update since we launched the product last year, so we're excited to be able to share it today.

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It looks to me like the links for DIY and prebuilt are reversed.

Re: The new and upgraded Framework Laptop

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Post by nrp »

headsoup wrote: post #20

Nice. I noticed the 'Pre-order now' button for the 12th gen DIY edition goes to the configuration page for the normal edition. I was confused that all options had Windows installed... You can still get to the DIY configure page through Product Story -> Pre-Order Now.

We are fixing this now!

Edit: This is fixed now.

Re: The new and upgraded Framework Laptop

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Post by selykg »

mavili wrote: post #18
nrp wrote: post #2

I'm happy to answer any questions around this! We've been working on this since update since we launched the product last year, so we're excited to be able to share it today.

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I love that we jump directly to "deception" rather than "this could be a mistake"

A better approach would've been:

"Your website shows "Starting at 959 for the DIY option, but when I click on it the base option starts at 1,049. Am I missing something or is this a bug, an explanation would be welcome."

Re: The new and upgraded Framework Laptop

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Post by nrp »

mavili wrote: post #18
nrp wrote: post #2

I'm happy to answer any questions around this! We've been working on this since update since we launched the product last year, so we're excited to be able to share it today.

Quoted post unavailable.

As the sibling comment noted, the DIY button was pointing to the pre-built configurations and vice versa. We're fixing this now.

Edit: This is fixed now.

Re: The new and upgraded Framework Laptop

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Post by hericium »

capableweb wrote: post #17
vodkapump wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know this gets asked a lot and isn't really about this new upgraded model but.. Any news on plans for AMD models?

> Any news on plans for AMD models? This is the only thing stopping me from getting a Framework laptop right now. I'd pay a premium for it as well.

Pre-Pluton chips, though.
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