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I see Bitcoin still has their official channel on Freenode[1]. I wonder if there are more projects still doing that. [1] https://bitcoin.org/en/community
The fact that this doesn't even mention Freenode is hilarious, and so awkward. Whoever wrote this had to really go out of their way to construct a history that isn't technically wrong, but, if you didn't know that Libera got its start as a fork of Freenode that almost everyone wanted to leave as soon as possible, you'd never figure it out.
> Starting from scratch, we managed to gain around 50 000 users in just a month and a half, a number which has been mostly steady since.
Seems pretty impressive when they put it that way!
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> This time, instead of this awful cycle of disempowerment of the people, it's time that the people of the world, together, plant the flag of the power of the people on the Internet. The internet changed everything and leveled the playing field. This cannot be taken away. By his own manifesto he wouldn't do that, and he wouldn't want to be a hypocrite.
> he wouldn't want to be a hypocrite I'm not sure that's actually true. Clearly he very much liked taking power away from a specific set of people. The guy really likes constructing this narrative where he's some sort of free speech savior, but when you look at his actions the opposite seems true. E.g. during the switch to libera if you had any mention of libera in the channel topic on freenode you'd end up with all…
1. Technical prowess doesn't supersede the value of interpersonal/social abilities
2. Money doesn't let you control the narrative in a free system
3. Elon Musk isn't Elon Musk because he's rich, he's Elon Musk because he's good at marketing
4. Reputation is everything
It's a shame that the cost of these lessons was the destruction of Freenode and further fragmentation of IRC, and hopefully the recovery continues. It was great to see everyone united for a brief moment though, regardless of your views against Freenode or any particular channel it was widely accepted that it was a horrible move and everyone resisted the hostile takeover.
The fact that this doesn't even mention Freenode is hilarious, and so awkward. Whoever wrote this had to really go out of their way to construct a history that isn't technically wrong, but, if you didn't know that Libera got its start as a fork of Freenode that almost everyone wanted to leave as soon as possible, you'd never figure it out.
The text could actually mention Freenode because this wasn't really a "start from scratch" as stated: > Starting from scratch, we managed to gain around 50 000 users in just a month and a half
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Do we have any reliable info on how freenode is even doing today? At least some accurate user counts? Who is using it? When the Exodus started, it seemed to turn into some right wing cesspool, but that was also more hearsay iirc.
It's back on netsplit's top 100 list at #7: https://netsplit.de/networks/top100.php I'm idling in the top 10 channels, it's semi-active in that people pop in and say stuff, but there's no interaction. Most connections are from old bots, or from community pages that haven't been updated.
Yeah, I lurk in a community that _also_ has a Libera channel now, but they keep a bridge-bot in the old Freenode channel because all their old videos implore people to join them on Freenode.
It gets a bit of traffic, meaning those folks might otherwise be lost without the bot, so I understand it. It just sucks.
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> he wouldn't want to be a hypocrite I'm not sure that's actually true. Clearly he very much liked taking power away from a specific set of people. The guy really likes constructing this narrative where he's some sort of free speech savior, but when you look at his actions the opposite seems true. E.g. during the switch to libera if you had any mention of libera in the channel topic on freenode you'd end up with all…
We need to standardize sarcasm punctuation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony_punctuation
Not hard to remember, since it's also my birthday. Thank you, Libera, for being one of the players keeping IRC alive.